Talk:Flin Flon

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I fail to see the connection between Flin Flon and marijuana production in Saskatoon. RedWolf 03:10, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)

The government marijuana grow-op is in a mine under Flin Flon. —Michael Z. 03:43, 2004 Oct 19 (UTC)

Flin Flon officially has city status. See [1] and [2]. —Michael Z. 03:43, 2004 Oct 19 (UTC)


Should this page be moved to Flin Flon, Manitoba/Saskatchewan like Lloydminster, Alberta/Saskatchewan? Tnikkel 06:46, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I think not. Only a very small portion of Flin Flon Actually stardles the border (less than 10%, I believe) unlike Llodminster which stradles the boundary pretty close to 50/50 doesn't it? So while it may be accurate to call it Flin Flon, Manitoba/Saskatchewan, this would be one of the few places in the world where it would be. I tried Googling it as "Flin Flon Manitoba/Saskatchewan" with only 55 hits. I can tell you, the neither the government of Saskatchewan nor the City of Flin Flon and its residents promote Flin Flon as a city in Saskatchewan. I lived there for 30 years, and my family has been living there for over 60. Even though property taxes of residents on the Sask side of the border may be paid to Sask, the revenues are simply paid back to the city for municipal services, and residents there are billed by the city for infrastructure services like water and garbage.Weaponofmassinstruction 23:42, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
However, creating Flin Flon, Manitoba/Saskatchewan and having it redirect here might be a good idea...?Weaponofmassinstruction 04:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Thats fine. I wasn't necessarily promoted the idea of moving the page, I just wanted to bring up the issue on the discussion page to see why it is more associated with Manitoba. Tnikkel 05:22, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
The only stupid questions are the ones we never ask. Weaponofmassinstruction 22:26, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] SF names

What about Tarzana, California? Also an SF hero, well, nearly SF. --Wtshymanski 18:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. -- tariqabjotu 01:18, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Flin Flon, Manitoba → Flin Flon – Flin Flon already redirects to Flin Flon, Manitoba. There are no other uses in Wikipedia. The city is actually partly in Saskatchewan. Usgnus 20:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

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  • Support. There is no need for disambiguation here. And the proposed move is consistent with the guideline at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (settlements)#Canada. Skeezix1000 21:03, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Support Use common (unqualified) name since there are no ambiguity issues. --Polaron | Talk 21:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Support per the move of Saskatoon. -Royalguard11TalkMy Desk 21:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. --Edgelord 17:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Support no brainer. --Serge 08:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Every other settlement in Manitoba has Manitoba appended. The Gazetteer of Canada (search page at [3]) gives 8 place names with Flin Flon in them, in both Saskatchewan and Manitoba. --Wtshymanski 13:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
    • The link is broken. --Usgnus 14:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
      • Fixed it - link to search page, not result. Lloydminster is much more symmetrically represented in the gazetteer. --Wtshymanski 15:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
    • There are only two results for "Flin Flon" -- one is the city in Manitoba and one is the unincorporated community in Saskatchewan adjacent to the city. Functionally, it is a single area. --Polaron | Talk 15:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
      • There's two search engines; one shows 8 locations, the one in the current link shows 6. This article says it's about the city, which the Government of Canada says is in Manitoba. (Thankfully this site says there's no such place as Ottawa-Hull, either...which is reassuring.) --Wtshymanski 15:54, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
        • But only two use Flin Flon alone, and they both refer to the city that is mostly in Manitoba, and partly in Saskatachewan. The others are Flin Flon Junction, Flin Flon Creek (twice), and Flin Flon Lake.
    • As for your first argument, see Talk:Winnipeg, Manitoba. --Usgnus 16:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Do people actually say "Flin Flon, Saskatchewan" when they're referring to the part of the town on the other side of the border? Because, unlike the "Lloydminster, Alberta"/"Lloydminster, Saskatchewan" distinction, I've never heard or seen the phrase "Flin Flon, Saskatchewan" in my life. FWIW. Bearcat 06:45, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Having grown up in Flin Flon (age two to twenty-nine) it is my opinion that nobody uses the phrase "Flin Flon, Saskatchewan". If "Flin Flon" already redirects to the current "Flin Flon, Manitoba" page, I can't see a reason to move the page to "Flin Flon". It is noted in the article that a small section of the city lies accross the Saskatchewan border, so a search query for Flin Flon Saskatchewan should direct users to the right place where they will find the answer. As stated above, if every other settlement in Manitoba has Manitoba appended to it, what's the difference? This page doesn't need to move. OpposeWeaponofmassinstruction 17:08, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Support no brainer--DaveOinSF 04:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose We've got a good convention and there's no reason to make an exception for this city, or any of the half-dozen other cities where this change has been proposed. Surely nobody's claiming this is a "global city"? —wwoods 22:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
You man want to read the good convention again. According to the city naming conventions page and I quote Places which either have unique names or are unquestionably the most significant place sharing their name, such as Quebec City or Toronto, can have undisambiguated titles. This means that you will need to find a Flin Flon that is of equal notability to this one. Finally I don't believe in any way that having a good naming convention should prevent a page move due to an exception that the convention itself supports. --My old username 00:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

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