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[edit] Usage

The {{flagicon|CountryName}} template displays a small flag image.

  • {{flagicon|CountryName}}
    • CountryName is the name of a country. ISO 3166-1 country codes are also recognized.


Main article: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Flag_Template

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Template:Flagicon page.

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[edit] Border?

Is there an easy way to add a border around the image that gets displayed? Flags that have large areas of white along their edges (such as Poland Poland or Japan Japan) don't look quite as good without a border; the individual flag pages recommend wrapping the image tag in {{border}}. However, using {{border}} around the {{flagicon}} call doesn't quite work the way I would expect it to (as in the following examples):

Using {{flagicon|Japan}}

Japan in a regular text paragraph.

  • Japan in a bulleted list paragraph.
  1. Japan in a numbered list paragraph.
Using {{border|{{flagicon|Japan}}}}

Japan uses both templates in a regular text paragraph.

  • Japan uses both templates in a bulleted list paragraph.
  1. Japan uses both templates in a numbered list paragraph.

As you can see, using {{border}} adds an extra line break before the text. Thoughts or ideas? AdThanksVance. Slambo (Speak) 18:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Some flags with white areas include a border in the image. This may be an issue for Wikipedia:WikiProject Flag Template or Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries, although I check their Talk pages as I've seen this discussed someplace. (SEWilco 19:20, 20 January 2006 (UTC))


Another problem with {{border}}, found during editing one game-related article. See the example stripped template on the right:

FlatOut 2
Developer(s)
Release date(s) RussiaJune 29, 2006
Europe June 30, 2006
United States August 1, 2006
Genre(s)
Mode(s)
Platform(s)

"Released part" contains just {{border|{{flagicon|RUS}}}}[[June 29]] [[2006]]<br />[[Image:European flag.svg|22px|Europe]] [[June 30]], [[2006]]<br />{{flagicon|USA}} [[August 1]] [[2006]], but it renders some vertical-prolonged border! Honeyman 16:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] USSR and PRC

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,People's Republic of China

the symbols on the flags (which are there only distinguishing feature) especially the USSR one are reduced to tiny splodges I wonder if we should exageragerate them a bit so they are actually recogniseable. Plugwash 17:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

No, that's not a good ideia. The flags should be presented as they are. Afonso Silva 16:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I think if a separate icon flag was created this might be acceptable. Rich Farmbrough 14:31 19 June 2006 (GMT).
Oh yes i wouldn't suggest changing full sized display of flags just the icons, this would be easy enough to implement in the template using #if Plugwash 20:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] European Union?

{{flagicon|EUR}} seem to generate only [[Image:Template:Country flag alias EUR|22x20px|Template:Country alias EUR]], while {{EUR}}</nowiki> generally works (Flag of European Union Europe). Any fix?

There is [[Image:European flag.svg|22px|Europe]] (Europe) though for it, but it goes out of the template. Honeyman 16:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Zealand not working

For some reason New Zealand using both NZL and New Zealand as arguments isn't working and is just displaying the text "New Zealand". Anyone more familiar with how this template is built have any clue why and how to fix it? -Drdisque 06:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

This problem is now occuring with New Zealand, Australia, and Brazil. -Drdisque 21:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm seeing icons. Maybe the image servers were slow at that time? Try reloading the page. (SEWilco 05:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Turks & Caicos

Turks and Caicos Islands - seems busted from where I'm sitting

Enlarge

[edit] World

Enlarge

Seeing as how there are more and more worldwide realeses, via online download and such, I created a World alias for the flagicon template, using the flag to the right, per Template:Infobox CVG standards. Just type in "World" and there ya go. World JQF 22:08, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Kind of hard to recognize that tiny blue ovoid with dust in the corners. Too many pale colors. (SEWilco 02:59, 20 September 2006 (UTC))
Well it's the one used for the CVG Infobox, so that's why I used it. If you know of another one that would be better suited, I'd be happy to hear it. JQF 22:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
It might be better to use a clearly recognizable globe. And in most situations no flagicon is needed for an international release. Shinobu 05:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trying to figure out what breaks South Korea

South Korea

Okay, this obviously is a problem with {{country_flag}}, not with this template. Shinobu 14:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is the point?

Why are little flags appropriate for Wikipedia? What are they for? —Centrx→talk • 02:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

For stubs as far as I can tell. -WarthogDemon 02:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Infoboxes. There's not always enough room for full country names. Shinobu 05:26, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, then it should be specifically discouraged in other places, because it is simply goofy where not necessary. —Centrx→talk • 08:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree. I think they should only be used in world or country-related affairs. -- Ladida 05:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
The top of this page links to a Wikiproject; discussion in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Flag Template is better than tucked in a single template's Talk page. The reason this template was created is as a standardized replacement for assorted flag templates, as pointed out in Village pump (news). "What links here" shows several kinds of usage. (SEWilco 01:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC))
What is the point of all these convoluted templates? They are used inappropriately throughout the wiki. —Centrx→talk • 02:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Changing Template:Country to eliminate the flag icon seems a bit premature, don't you think? --*Spark* 02:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
It has been a month, and this issue has been brought up in numerous forums. No one seems to have provided any reason why a flag should appear beside every mention of a country in an infobox or table or, more importantly, why it should be propagated uniformly by template. If there is a reason, please explain it. —Centrx→talk • 03:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
The passage of time is irrelevant when there is no discussion. What other numerous forums, and which are relevant ones which would have been noticed by users of these templates? There is a link at the top of this page to the relevant WikiProject, why have you not discussed it there? (SEWilco 17:57, 11 December 2006 (UTC))

I seem to have arrived a bit late.

Anyway, my argument: if people wanted to only use the country name they would have linked it directly, not used a convoluted template. The point of the templates in the first place is to provide "aids to navigation in very long lists of countries: the flag of the individual country one is looking for may 'stand out' to the eye more immediately than the name itself", as WP:FLAGCRUFT, says. Consider, for example, List of countries by length of coastline or European_Short_Course_Swimming_Championships_2006#Medal_Table. I agree that they are overused, but replace the template with a country name individually.

And the point of uniform propagation is the same as why we have class="wikitable" and a common CSS: It looks more professional if things like flags are roughly similar throughout wiki. Sam Vimes | Address me 11:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

It might stand out to the eye, but for most people most flags are meaningless. They will recognize a few of the flags and no others; they are going to read the names anyway, and the names are nevertheless listed. Also, I do not see why "eye-catching" is relevant to an encyclopedia. Why don't we put graphic bars of relative lengths on the coastline page? Why don't we put a little filled clock next to all the times on the Olympic page? The flags are useful to save space instead of writing out the full country name (though, because most flags are not clear which country they belong to, the country names should usually be written out anyway). —Centrx→talk • 12:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem icon?

Template:Country alias Kurdistan

I think this thing is problematic. Kurdistan is not a country. And don't get this the wrong way. Kurdistan (Iraq) does not claim to be a country. I do not see why we should treat it like a country. --Cat out 21:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that the availability of {{flagicon}} implies that something is a country, just that it has a flag. Shinobu 06:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Template:Country alias Texas Texas isn't a country either, but {{flagicon|Texas}} works. As I see it, this template isn't meant to imply that something is a country; all it means is that there is a claimed political entity, and those who claim its existence also claim that it has a flag, and that this flag looks like this. The template makes no statement about the validity of the claim. The Picaroon 02:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect design statement

User:Centrx altered the protected page to add a statement that this template was designed for specific types of uses. This is factually incorrect. It was designed for technical reasons to provide standardized icons for replacement of the assortment of defacto icons with various characteristics and naming conflicts. The type of usage was not part of the design. (SEWilco 18:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC))

I removed the "designed" part. See also the above discussion. —Centrx→talk • 05:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unsupported use restriction

It is requested that an edit or modification be made to the protected page.
Please remove this template after the request is fulfilled.

User:Centrx added a protected statement which states how the template is to be used, without such a decision of use restriction having been made. Centrx claims discussion in numerous forums but does not support such claim. (SEWilco 06:39, 13 December 2006 (UTC))

See above at #What is the point? for the discussion that is on this very talk page and the discussion which is directly referenced in the edit, [1], which was made three weeks after the discussion was initiated, for starters. What are the reasons why this template should be used for other purposes? —Centrx→talk • 07:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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