Talk:Flash fiction

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Am I the only one who can't see the relation between the fiction made on Flash section and the main part of the article? ~ Mccow28

Sorry, I didn't realize at first which part you were referring to, before I added the section below on Macromedia Flash. Phrenq 16:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

There seem to be more external links than actual content in this article, which leads me to believe its mostly advertising. Anyone want to help me pare down the list? Shy 17:53, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree... the last several edits are just people adding external links. It seems most of them violate the spirit of the External link guidelines as well as what Wikipedia is not. The list should be pared down to just a couple appropriate links. Any suggestions? Phrenq 17:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

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Can anyone find evidence that Ernest Hemingway actually wrote that six-word story about baby shoes? --Justallie 21:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

So just change it and make it by another author. Look here for inspiration http://wired.com/wired/archive/14.11/sixwords.html. Butterflyvertigo 19:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=28;t=001014;p=1 has more discussion. It's a good question, but it doesn't look like anybody else is claiming to have written it. Maybe he just never found anyone willing to pay him to print it. Ojcit 04:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from Short short story (and microfiction?)

I've suggested the Short short story stub be merged into Flash fiction, as it is largely just another word for the same concept. In fact, I don't believe there's really anything to do, other than add "short short story" to the list of alternate terms in the first paragraph. Any opinions? Phrenq 14:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree there's considerable overlap in these terms and no clear consensus on just how many words constitute a flash or a short-short. The only procedural consideration of any consequence in a merge might be deciding which term users are more likely to search. Davidbdale 01:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Should consideration be given to merging "flash fiction" and "short short story" with "microfiction"? The three concepts do seem closely related. Personally, I would tend to favor "microfiction" for the common name. But whichever name were selected, links would guide readers from the remaining names to the common article. logologist|Talk 05:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there's no need to worry about broken searches because the merge procedure includes adding a redirect from the old term to the new one. I agree that it's probably a good idea to merge microfiction as well. I'll mark microfiction as suggested to be merged.
As far as which is the appropriate common name, I'm going to vote for flash fiction, as it seems to be the more commonly used term. A google search (though hardly definitive, I still think it's a reasonable measure of zeitgeist) backs me up:
- Phrenq 14:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Did you also check for "micro-fiction," with a hyphen, and for "micro-story"? logologist|Talk 15:12, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, Google includes hyphenated words when you search for words separated by a space (even with quotes), so that's included in the previous link. As for "micro story" OR microstory, that search returns 51,300. None of them are on the same scale as the 700,000+ results for flash fiction.
Anyway, I want to be real careful not to imply that a google search is the authoratative source for which is the correct term. I just wanted a quick gague of which seems to be the more popular one, and google is good for that. Another term might be more appropriate for reasons other than popularity. I just can't think of any. Phrenq 16:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Macromdia Flash

I have doubts about the paragraph that begins "Recently, a new twist on this form has appeared within short fictions written for the web that are created entirely in Flash", which refers to multimedia stories presented using the Macromedia Flash player. I've never heard of this referred to as "Flash fiction", and none of the sites referred to appear to use this term, so this description may not belong in this entry. Anyone have a source for this usage? Phrenq 12:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

The Flash Player (and application) post-date the original use of the term "Flash Fiction." This suggests that a partial updating of this term may be in order, as we have seen with other etymologies of terms in current usage. Would it be appropriate to leave in the paragraph referenced above simply to show that the term has multiple possible meanings, particularly with the emergence of new technologies? (Added by sm81email on Nov. 26, 2006)

My problem with this is that I can't actually find any usage of the term "Flash Fiction" that refers to macromedia flash, other than in this article. It would seem to have much more in common with, say, Hypertext fiction. Perhaps we should use the otheruses4 template, like this:
This article is about very short stories. For interactive multimedia stories, see Hypertext fiction.
Might that be appropriate? Phrenq 16:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree that there is no current usage of the term "Flash Fiction" in reference to the creation of new, usually short, fictions using Flash. However, hypertext is an old(er) form, predominantly created in HTML, and predating current technologies. It is a bit of a puzzler--hypertext doesn't really apply, and Flash fiction already has a stable reference base. If you don't mind, I'm going to let you run with this one? (Added by sm81email on Dec. 7, 2006) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.23.184.95 (talk) 01:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
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