Talk:Flèche (fencing)

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[edit] Wrong idea of what a fleche is

I think you have the idea of a flèche (fencing) wrong. You say that the idea is "running as quickly as possible, allowing the attacker to close a greater amount of distance than with a standard attack". That is absolutely wrong. You should never use a fleche to close distance much greater than that of a lunge. You make it sound like the idea is to charge down the length of the piste. Begineers always make this mistake.

You should be hitting your oponent at the same point as your back foot has crossed over and hit the ground - well before you start to do any kind of running. You only run because you as you past them you don't want to give them time to hit you on your back.

The source you reference pretty much explains this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.9.137.165 (talk • contribs) .

Then thank you for fixing the article. However, most training I've ever done with the fleche involves taking three steps (when doing it in footwork practices). Three steps is far more distance than you ever close with a lunge. Staxringold 15:32, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

You take 3 steps because it's a footwork practice. As anon said, in reality, flèche is never used to cover distance. You shouldn't be any further than "lunge distance" from your opponent when you start the flèche. Of course, you could arrive there by 3 forward steps, but that's irrelevant - that's not part of the flèche. --Zoz (t) 18:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

In fact the moment your back foot hits the ground after the big "swing forward" you Finish your attack, and if you don't hit then you lose all Right Of Way.

EX: Fencer A fleches from 3 tempos away and thus takes about two "running steps" (that is crossing forward steps) at Fencer B before hitting him. Assuming Fencer A does not hit until after taking at least one "running step" if Fencer B hits Fencer A at all during the running steps the correct call would be Attack in Preparation from Fencer B- point awarded to Fencer B. BlackJeebus 05:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)