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[edit] Featured Article Status
This article did not make it to featured article status. That is a pity, perhaps the application was a little premature. Still, Fishing does have the makings a very good and possible feature-quality article. Let us see it we can do it! Gaius Cornelius 22:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removal of Anglers Rest Image
Hi!
I'm just a visitor to this article, and before I start a revert war I'd like to put it up for discussion: Should the Anglers Rest Image be included? Personally I feel it is valuable because it shows a popular recreational fishing river. But lets see what the community thinks. --Fir0002 22:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- The picture is not appropriate here. Removing it was the right thing to do. Gaius Cornelius 17:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with Gaius Cornelius, and support the removal. Arnejohs 19:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Surf fishing
is missing. Or is it listed by another name, if so I missed it. Montara State Beach has surf fishing. meatclerk 05:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know what surf fishing is. If it is essentially and 'invented sport' then, if it belongs anywhere in Wikipedia, it would be more appropriate under angling or sport fishing. If it is a very popular sport, or is some other way notable, it might deserve an article of its own. Gaius Cornelius 07:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Your note raises an interesting general point: what does and what does not belong in the fishing article. I would say that the article should reflect the practice of fishing throughout the world and throughout history and that the techniques mentioned should be economically or culturally significant to the people who practice it. To this might be added practices that are scientifically significant. Some feedback to establish the consensus would be helpful here. Gaius Cornelius 07:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
If this helps, Surf Fishing is essentially line fishing, but you are casting into the surf. I'm not sure what one will catch, as I've never done this. It would also fit under native american fishing, also oddities, like some movies show this, even tv shows. So, is it a valid fishing method? I'm not 100% sure, but I can bet State of California has laws for it. meatclerk 09:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Surf fishing is a form of angling and, if it merits a home on Wikipedia, should probably live in the angling article. One might also argue that surf fishing really is a form of recreational fishing, since I'm not aware of any subsistence or commercial fisheries that use surf fishing. I think it's inappropriate to try to list every type of angling or every conceivable sort of net or, whatever, in the fishing article. In my opinion, the fishing article should be about fishing in the broadest sense of that word. There are, or should be, other articles to amplify specific kinds of fishing. See, the way I see the hierarchy is this: the fishing article is about the elements that are common to all types of fishing and not about any specific form of fishing. A descendant of the fishing article is the angling article which is about the elements common to all types of angling, whether that be commercial long-line angling fisheries or fly-fishing for sport or any other form of angling. A descendant of the angling article might be the recreationl fishing article which is about the elements that are common to all forms of recreational fishing, etc, etc, etc. Of course, this is only my vision so I'd welcome anyone to tell me I'm full of excrement. — Dave 13:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Now, that I have had some sleep - I am fairly confident I could find a reference for commercial surf fishing, as well as native american surf fishing. I believe it does belong under the modern angling section for recreational fishing. Now that I've had some sleep on this, the things one could catch include eel, and salmon.
On that commercial surf fishing there should be some material. Eel on the surf is common. Some use "pokie poles" and local fishermen from Pillar Point (north of Half Moon Bay, CA) have been known for this and surf fishing. Chinese were known for all types of fishing on the coast, from Half Moon Bay to San Francisco. SF has a "China Beach" which was an early fishing village in a ravine. They used it to avoid being beaten up by white bigots - well known local history. They did surf fishing along with abalone and whaling.
To all this I'm sure there is commerial surf fishing from New Jersey (sp?) to Florida, however now mostly recreational - as is here now. meatclerk 16:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] saltwater fishing.
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Saltwater fishing is classified in two groups. Group A inshore which includes canals, bays, beach, ... THe many variety of fish include snook, redfish, and sea trout as the most popular inshore fish in florida though there are many more. As for group B which is offshore that includes the Oceans and Gulfs. In Florida some of the popular fish include grouper, snapper, dolphin (mahi mahi) and more. Most offshore fishing takes larger boats inorder to counter act the high intensity of the waves. As for inshore fishing which takes a very boyant boat some are called a flats boat.Depending on the type of fishing and species of fish someone is targeting will depend on the tackle and bait needed. -- phoebe 07:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lists of fishing ports by country
Does this list exist? List of North American fishing ports, List of Brazilian fishing ports, List of Thai fishing ports, List of eastern Pacific ocean fishing ports? I live near New Bedford, Massachusetts and every year the port finishes in the top ten, for the USA. --McTrixie 21:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
