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[edit] DonotsaynoI've filed an RfC against him if you are interested. --CFIF ☎ ⋐ 20:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Admin coachingHello, I see you have been assigned as one of my admin coaches. Thank you! I have created a subpage for discussion at User:Ginkgo100/Admin coaching. Please feel free to comment there. Cheers! --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 20:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Questions about user page and info boxesThanks for your help so far. I have three more questions. 1. I have started working on my userpage. Where is there a list of the boxes that you have on the right of your page? I would like to include relevant ones on mine. 2. How do you create an Infobox? I would like to make one for the TAIMUN conference pages I am working on. 3. How do you nominate someone for a barnstar? Thanks. Ludahai 12:56, 6 October 2006 (UTC) Thanks for all of your help. I hope you don't mind my borrowing a couple of ideas from your User Page. And, congrats on #18,000. A thousand in three days! Do you have a life? :) BTW, happy Mid Autumn Festival. Ludahai 13:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] RfA thanks
[edit] No problemI had a feeling that you actually plan on getting this to featured status partly due to you listing it on WP:1FAPQ. So when I saw your peer review empty I rushed to throw out some notes. I'm sure because of that some of my comments aren't too clear. Anyway if you want I can do a copy-edit (rephrase some things) after you go through my notes. It was my pleasure doing the review if its means that this article will become better. On another note, the most important of my comments is the article not following a timeline and the analysis. I don't think its wrong to give analysis but without a timeline it just makes the article look like an essay. Here is what I mean: Bad: John went to Peter's House. John broke Peter's leg. Peter had to go to the hospital. Peter was mad because before he went to Johns house because Peter kissed his sister. John recovered. Good: Peter was mad at John house because Peter kissed his sister. John went to Peter's House. John broke Peter's leg. Peter had to go to the hospital. I hope you can understand what I mean by the above. I think analysis of something in a text should go right after its mentioned instead of it being scattered around. - Tutmosis 01:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Uh ohI may have jumped the gun on Stegosaurus...not sure if this FAC will be doable. Any help much appreciated. Question is, how much embellishment is enough on scientific bits. cheers Cas Liber 03:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] My RfA
[edit] How do I create a link?I got your thing about my new article, Carnictis (Vile Meat-Weasel). And I'd like to thank you for the advice. But anyway, I need to know how to create a link so that I can link my page up with the King Kong(2005)Page.A7X 900 18:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Titus AloneHey, it seems you were the original editor of the Titus Awakes page. According to you, Peake's wife got 30000 pages into World Without End, her version of the book... I was curious, do you happen to know of any way to see these 30000 pages? Was this information in one of the antecedent or ancilliary documents, essays, etc included in Titus Alone? I ask because I have not yet purchased or read Alone (I'm still on Gormenghast), but if these 30k pages are something I can get my hands on I definitely want to ASAP.--Mr Bucket 05:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Cool as a cucumber............
 there's a bottle of champers on ice if it gets Featured Article..... :) Cas Liber 10:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Can you lend a hand please?I feel like such a noob for asking this but here it goes, I need your help with my new page, Carnictis (Vile Meat-Weasel). I just need some more info on the creature and a picture of it as well. I promise this will be the last time I come to you for help, I don't want to be a pest.A7X 900 01:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Cheers!
[edit] American School in TaichungCould we please get the page named Taichung American School changed to American School in Taichung? That is the correct name of the school. You can verify it on the external link I provided on that page. I am going to work on that article next week. Thanks. Ludahai 04:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC) Never mind. I figured out how to do it. Thanks Ludahai 05:00, 12 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] You deleted a page which really didn't qualify for speedy deletionI would appreciate if you could read the hangon tag and review the contents of the site before deleting. The following is the contents of the hangon tag that I had put up: have been trying to put up information about WET, an opensource web testing tool. The criterea for speedy deletion of this page that was quoted in the morning was that it was a blatant advertisement for a product. The only external link that the page was pointing to was wet.qantom.org which is the home page for this opensource product. WET is a opensource product which is serving the community of software testers. Other than gratitude to the financial supporters of the product there is no commercial even in the web page. Apologies! but if adding content about an open source product is considered commercial, then wikipedia should consider using a non opensource product for its own content delivery. I came back to it later in the day and am now trying to add the page again. This time I get an error that this Wiki page uses copyrighted material from http://wet.qantom.org. True that I copied the contents of this page entirely from the wet.qantom.org home page - but that page itself is not copyrighted. It is a opensource product and the contents are shared using a creative commons share-alike license. I am at my wit's end now - whether to try to spend time to add more content or not. I dont want to keep adding an entry for WET and come back to only see that the content has been removed. I had put a hangon tag even in the morning. I do agree that strict measures are required to keep the spam out, but at the same time, I think that the editors who are responsible for deleting pages should atleast read the hangon tag contents, check the contents that seem to be in dispute and eventually notify the original author as to why they still think that the content is objectionable. Just my few cents. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raghublr (talk • contribs).
[edit] CoelophysisOK. First, sorry for the American instead of English (I was not sure). Secondo, can you explain a thing? Why do you (I mean you Anglosaxons) add the pronunciation scheme? If it is an aid to pronounce the Latin name, then the correct pronunciation is with the "Ch" of "cheese" (something such Cheh-low-PHY-sys I think). Anyway, I think if you use the Latin term you should pronounce it in the correct form. Let me know and good work!--Attilios 22:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Need your help to reviewHello, I am new user and have been trying to write some article on the wikipedia. I started off by writing about WET, an opensource web testing tool. It got deleted more than once as I had apparently not followed certain Wiki Ethos. After looking through some of the guidelines, I have rewritten the complete article and have tried to follow the guidelines. I would like your help to review this article. I have put it up as a user sandbox page at User:Raghublr/Sandbox. If you could review it once and mark your comments in the page, I will make changes appropriately and add it as an article called Wet Web Tester. I am using the same sandbox user page's talk page as the communication media. -- Best regards, Best regards, Raghu V 07:40, 14 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] LaurentdionTalk page or email, whichever works best for you is okay for me (my email is enabled). As I told david, I showed on AN:I that not only has this user been here for some time, they have never touched an article, and fit the very definition of a disruptive single-purpose account. His requests are absurd; we cannot delete his username, nor can we delete every mention of him and his former article from the history of every page in which they have appeared. This user has made every indication that they have no intention whatsoever of ever being a good contributor. Therefore, I still see no reason to unblock. --InShaneee 20:44, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Post mortemOh (expletives deleted) sod it - still, I can understand - something about the overall flow of the Stegosaurus page I was always a bit unhappy with. How long is a lockout period before re-requesting FAC? Cas Liber 00:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Later Jin DynastyThere is a problem here. Currently, there is a redirect to send any entries that list Later Jin Dynasty to a page entitled Jin Dynasty. However, there is a Later Jin Dynasty that existed during the Five Dynasties period currently entitled Later Jin Dynasty (Five Dynasties). However, current formatting would make that page difficult to access directly, and there is little justification for the redirect page. Could the redirect page be deleted so I can rename the existing Later Jin Dynasty page to be consistent with the other Five Dynasties pages? I have been expanding the existing stubs and will be adding pages for the other two dynasties for which there is no existing page. Thanks. Ludahai 00:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Chubby lock service shouldn't have been deletedI think deleting Chubby_Lock_Service was a mistake. Chubby is an interesting lock manager that's very different than what else is out there, and the paper about chubby is appearing at the 'Operating Systems Design and Implementation' conference next month - the most prestiegious operating systems conference in the world. Chubby is a major part of Google's infrastructure and Wikipedia is certainly a better encyclopedia with an article about it. (In fact, wikipedia.org might someday want to use the Chubby software or something very much like it). Certainly the article was a bit sparse - sorry, I was making my first edit to another article (BigTable) - the BigTable article errnously claimed that BigTable was built on a piece of Google infrastructure that also had a wikipedia article, so when I fixed the BigTable article I created the Chubby article so there was still a link in the BigTable article. If anything, the Chubby article should have been listed as a stub, but it was my first article and I didn't know how to do that. I think I'm following the first step of Wikipedia:Undeletion_policy right, but if I should be posting this appeal somewhere else please let me know. I'm not sure if there was a discussion about deleting it (I didn't see it on the list of articles for deletion on Oct 12 or 13th) so I think you "speedy deleted" it. Thanks! Erik s paulson 16:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Hey!Hey Fang Aili! I got to thinking. Since you were my admin coach, and since I was Ginkgo100's admin coach, it's kinda like you're a grandmother. ;) (OK, this message was sort of pointless, but I just wanted to thank you once again for your support, as always). Best wishes, :) Firsfron of Ronchester 04:25, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Check upHey, its been some time since the DuMont Television Network peer review and I just want to let you know I havent forgot about it. I see you still working on it and I intend to keep my promise and copyedit the article. So let me know when you finished. - Tutmosis 20:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Looking up deleted contribsSince you were such a great admin coach before my promotion, I'll ask you my first syspo question after promotion. =) Is there an easy way to look up deleted pages in a user's contribs? I ran across an abusive editor who did nothing but create attack pages. Since these were speedy deleted, I could not check to see how many different pages had been created -- I could only look up the history for the one I deleted, because I did not know the names of the other ones. Do I have to just rely on other editors' talk page warnings to get an idea of this history? --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 23:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Welcome to the AMA!Hello Firsfron, I see that you have decided to join the AMA (we're a little late with this one). I'll be the first to say welcome! We're always in need of more advocates, especially since were backloged most of the time. Your also only the second sysop advocate we have. Just a few pointers for what we do. We communicate by putting a template on our talk page. The template is {{AMA alerts}}. The AMA also has it's own IRC channel which reports new cases to us, and also new alerts. If you'd like to jump right into a case, you can check out WP:AMARQ, which is our new request for advocacy system. The instructions for how the technical part works is on the talk page. You can also use the AMA userboxes that appear under here. If you have anymore questions about the organization, just ping any advocates talk page, including our coordinator, Steve. Again, welcome to the AMA! -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 05:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] User 209.189.130.41More vandalism by 209.189.130.41 at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ringo_Starr&diff=82644448&oldid=82628893 J.R. Hercules 01:23, 21 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Tecmobowl (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log)Tecmobowl is acting like one of the vandals in the Spotteddogsdotorg/Scott Brown sockpuppet ring switching from television to baseball and staying away from his main targets of abuse. The patterns are obvious, even down to the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents posting and playing innocent. I first suspected him a few weeks ago. TV Newser Tipline 08:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Comfort zone.......I must admit I do feel out of my depth sometimes with dinosaurs, even though I have been interested for yonks. Another hobby is Australian plants, in particular Banksia, and we are about to stick Banksia integrifolia up as a Featured Article Candidate - this will hopefully reinflate my defaltion on Steggy........Cas Liber 11:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC) Well spotted typo! thanks - I think we'll put it up on FAC later today.Cas Liber 00:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Regarding Association of Members' AdvocatesHi, you are receiving this message because you have listed yourself as an active member of WP:AMA. If you aren't currently accepting inquiries for AMA, or if you have resigned, please de-list yourself from Wikipedia:AMA Members. If you are still active, please consider tending to any new requests that may appear on Category:AMA Requests for Assistance. We're going to put AMA on wheels. :) Sorry for the template spamming - we're just trying to update our records, after we had a huge backlog earlier in the week (if you've been taking cases, then sorry, and please ignore this :)). Again, sorry, and thanks! Martinp23 20:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hmm...Hello there! Right now, I can't afford the time to be as thorough as I would like to be in answering your query - this is a situation where a lot can be said. Here is a sketch of what I would be inclined to do if I was more informed and involved:
This is one of those odd situations where a creative use of the buttons is in order. What you are looking for, is a response that reads intelligently, and indicates unambiguously that the user is trying to do something good for Wikipedia. This has to be done on the talk page, not in an e-mail. If it falls short of this, press the user to give a better response. If this fails, then keep the block active - you are not here to babysit accounts over the internet. Feel good that you have given someone a reasonable dose of professionalism and dignity through the process. This works regardless if the user is a "child" or an "adult". Create situations for someone to act maturely, and they will do so if they are capable and willing. Likewise, be prepared to reciprocate this when you receive it. In the event you have to lift the block, be graceful about it - this means, knowing how to admit error. I generally write something to the effect "blocked in error - my fullest apologies". However, my inclination is that for this case, this is not a likely scenario - something feels very suspicious about the account, particularily if you look at how the userpages were constructed, and the related accounts on other language Wikis. Remember, the Wiki cannot capture the sophistication of reality, so focus on what you know from the Wiki, and nothing else. I hope this helps. --HappyCamper 13:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] AWBDo you really mean that the sentence should start with a lower case letter: [1]? Please be more careful when using AWB. Den fjättrade ankan 18:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Dino projectAdded myself to the project. Will be happy to help wherever I can. Thanks for the tip. ArthurWeasley 02:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] AdvamegYou deleted an article that is the subject of an ongoing AfD debate. This is a clear violation of policy. Please contribute to the AfD debate instead of deleting the article unilaterally. Mjk2357 03:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Advameg - hopefully the last word - spammers give me a headache
[edit] Arabnet, Arabcircle, Stars.net, DreamnetWhy did you delete these articles? They are ISPs in Saudi Arabia. I don't believe they are candidates for speedy deletion. If it helps they are listed in the official website of the ISU (Saudi Arabia). Anyways, if you still think they should remain deleted it's cool with me, I know the articles are kind of lame. :| --Anas Salloum 14:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] fixNo problemo. --Fang Aili talk 16:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] StegosaurusThe article looks pretty good to me thanks to all your edits. When do you want to proposed it as a featured article? ArthurWeasley 17:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] StegosaurusRe your post on my talk. I'm honoured to be considered at least a de facto leader! Alas, my time is little on here for a while, due to outside stress & little to write about... However, in regards to getting the dino to pass FAC, you need to do a few things. 1) Get Sheepy involved. He ususally helps a great deal with the technical stuff. 2) Some sections are very small. Also, if the in popular culture section is bigger than any other section, you've got problems. Try & cut down on the pop culture section a bit, maybe removing any obviously badly written pieces that often occur in the pop culture sections. Then add to the other section. In particular, History of Discovery & the description sections are lacking, & to a less what degree, the Paleobiology sections. Sheepy usually helps with those sections. 3) After all this, it always helps to proof read the entire article for grammar & to make sure all inline cites are behind the punctuation. 4) Hope to dear God almightly nobody like Tony1 shows up saying crap like "I oppose because you haven't change "with" to "and", as this would save on .1 letters!". Yes, very annoying when people oppose solely for minor minor spelling or grammar mistakes, such as in T rex. 5) When people oppose & then don't change their vote once you've fixed their concerns, always make sure that you clearly state what you have fixed & how you feel that their oppose is now invalid, so that Raul can see that you have fixed the problems. Don't forget, it's also up to Raul to decide too. Finally, 6) Try not to get stressed out like I did with my other 3 FACs. If you get stressed, ask someone like me, Ballista or Dinoguy to take over or help with replies. It really helped having you there on the T rex FAC, so never go it alone. That's about it matey. Hope you get it passed & hopefully I'll be on to vote for it... Also, I'm just wondering if anyone else can maintain the Dino collaboration. I've left a message on my user page, but I doubt anyone's raised their hand. Could you keep me posted? Thanks a bunch man... Spawn Man 22:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] StegosaurusYou sent me a message asking if I could check the Stegosaurus article. I made one change. It is not any more common than other dinosaurs. I think it should be a candidate. There is no other information that I can think to add. Thank you for asking me. somedude101 maybe add something about stegosaur's diet. I'm pretty sure it's ferns or whatnot, as grass didn't exist back then, I think. Otherwise it looks good and follows t-rex FA structure. BlueShirts 04:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC) It was a good idea to add a Diet section. However there is a slight redundancy with the Skull section which describes the teeth and how stegosaurus must have used them (according to two possible scenarii). Not sure how to get around this though. ArthurWeasley 17:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC) I think I have finished messing around with the article now and to me it is ready for FA resubmission. Have a last check with User:Casliber and User:Mark t young to see if they have anything to add or correct and give it a try. Good luck! ArthurWeasley 06:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Nielsen RatingsMy source for the 1949-1950 show was (I'm slightly embarassed to admit) Uncle John's Giant 10th Anniversary Bathroom Reader. Of course, a book with "bathroom" in the title may not always be trusted, and I agree that this fact is out of place in an article about the Nielsen Ratings. Steveo2 11:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re: DuMontI see absolutely no reason not to list it as a GA candidate. It's got good prose, it's well-sourced (someone could certainly claim that some of the sources aren't necessarily "reliable", but how many RSs are you going to find on a network that disintigrated half a century ago?), and it's probably as comprehensive as I could imagine it getting. As far as whether or not it could be an FA (obviously, I'd go for GA first, but that's pretty obvious), it would certainly be a strong candidate. See what the person who passes it as a GA (as I'm sure it will be one) says in their comments, and go from there. Best of luck! -- Kicking222 13:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Link spam67.167.83.166 (Talk) (Contribs) has been relentlessly adding spam links for fansites over the past few months. He was warned once in August by another editor and I warned him a few days, since then he's continued spamming links. In his recent edits he's removed the official site link, IMDb link and all the references in the article, Paulina Rubio, as well as adding more fansite links to Danity Kane and 8th & Ocean. What is the next move? Do I need to give him a final spam warning or can he just be banned now? Thanks for your help. —B33R(talk • contribs) 20:46, 29 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Freddie Mercury revert warsWhile I'm here, can I bring to your attention revert wars on Freddie Mercury? 67.190.44.85 and Sparkhead have been unable to agree on the other of some quotes, leading to "revert wars" between the two. I added my opinion on the talk page and was promptly told by an aggressive 67.190.44.85 that "your efforts here are doing more harm than good with regard to the quality of the article." 67.190.44.85 has gone on to say in the edit summaries of further edits:
Despite the fact that in British English the punctuation does in fact go outside of the quotes. I'd appreciate your help in defusing the situation and fixing the punctuation problem which wasn't wrong in the first place. —B33R(talk • contribs) 21:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Now that the IP user has essentially claimed ownership of the quotes, which isn't allowed per WP:OWN and is now calling anyone who disagrees "morons", in the edit summaries and on the talk page, this is highly disruptive to the article and I'm sure name-calling is against Wiki rules. Furthermore, as the article is about a British person there's no reason why the article should be written in anything other than British English but then again I'm a "moron" for not writing in American English so what do I know?! Not to mention the IP user's history of vandalism and the fact that he still doesn't provide any edit summaries despite numerous editors asking him to. So as I see it, my only course of action now is to stop editing Freddie Mercury because I write in British English and because I don't want to be abused and called a moron by the "owner", an anonymous user who thinks he's always right and that he owns the article, every time I make an edit. If that is allowed to pass then I'm sure every anonymous user will be abusing people, from the link spammers I revert daily to anyone else who doesn't agree with me, and in that case I might as well quit editing now for fear of running into another 67.190.44.85. —B33R(talk • contribs) 11:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Esperanza Admin coaching - October 29As far as I can see you are not currently assigned as a coach to anyone at Admin coaching. Are OK to receive a new trainee? Thank you for helping with admin coaching! Highway Grammar Enforcer! 22:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] WP:FUCrather than leave you a lengthy explanation, noticing your commentary about fair-use image galleries, i was wondering if you could take a close look at the past history and talk page associated with Poké Ball, thank you. -Zappernapper 19:11, 30 October 2006 (UTC) (Just how does one pronounce "WP:FUC"? Tee hee.. --Fang Aili talk 14:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Help!I was wondering if you can help me with a minor issue i seem to have developed with my preferences?! I changed my skin option to the 'chick' setting and now, none of the links to the other option headings within my preferences page will work-they just don't do anything so i'm stuck with no way of getting back to my original settings! Is bugging me but is also probably something I've done wrong (that kinda thing usually is!). Would be grateful if you could help me-thanks!Greebo cat 21:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Admin coaching - October 30 - New partnersYou've been assigned Exir Kamalabadi (talk • contribs) as a student, and Nishkid64 (talk • contribs), as a partner. Once coaching's began, can you move the entry from Pending, to Active at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Admin coaching/Coaching box. If you've got any questions, hit my talk page. Cheers, Highway Grammar Enforcer! 22:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Admin CoachingYes, we'll do the coaching at the subpage you just mentioned. By the way, shall I notify NishKid, or will you do it? I can't wait to get started.--¿¡Exir Kamalabadi?!Join Esperanza! 23:22, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Happy HalloweenYeah, there were just too many pages on my list!!! And I feel like I got WP:Figure Skating off the ground and it's moving along just fine, so I can feel good about that. Michelle Kwan did get promoted to GA status, so that was a victory. Congrats on 20K edits, btw! I wonder how many I have now. --Fang Aili talk 14:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Am i getting on your nerves yet?!Sorry to keep pestering you, but i have another favour to ask you. I added a few sentences to the article on brachypodosaurus but it looks wrong and i can't put a finger on the wrongness! I think it may be somethin to do with my formatting or something-could you take a quick look when you have time and let me know what i did wrong? Thanks again. Greebo cat 15:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] DravidosaurusI actually first added the sentence that Dravidosaurus was a nomen dubium (see all my previous edits in the history page), then I had second thoughts (I often have...). As you said, nomen dubium means doubtful name. The problem with dravidosaurus is that it can still be a valid taxon except that we don't know for sure what it is. Anyway, if you feel that it should be tagged as a nomen dubium, no problem. Btw, Stegosaurus a FA yet (don't know much how this is processed)? Cheers ArthurWeasley 23:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC) There are a number of articles which are marked as stubs. Is there any rule to decide when an article is not a stub anymore? Take Brachypodosaurus, it has a complete taxobox, a set of references and there isn't much we could add to the content since it is only known from an humerus. Should it still be considered a stub? (In that case, it might remain a stub forever). I am relative new to wikipedia so figured I should ask somebody experienced. ArthurWeasley 23:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC) [edit] Stegosaurus (again)OK. I've cast my vote. Cheers ArthurWeasley 00:59, 1 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] ThanksThanks for the welcome, I like Wikipedia very much and I'll try to contribute a lot here( I'm sorry if I commit any English mistake, that's because I am Brazilian and I am learning English) Thiago R Ramos 17:50, 2 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Talk:Sheriff (company)Two users (I am one of them) have a content dispute on the article Sheriff (company). It is a bit complex, but I feel that the time is right for a third opinion. If you want to help, please read the Talk page of the article, and in particular Talk:Sheriff_(company)#Ties_to_Renewal which focuses on the current dispute. You may also give us recommendations for how to resolve the dispute, in addition to your third opinion. Thank you in advance. - Mauco 03:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Howdy!Heya, I just saw your message on my talk page. Sometimes I edit Wikipedia from the library or one of the computer labs on campus where I go to school. Small campus a couple blocks from a Wal Mart, in an Army town?--Raguleader 03:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Derek WebbThanks for your input on the good article candidacy of Derek Webb. I'll see what I can do about more references. Pepsi2786 07:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] November Esperanza NewsletterFor your reading pleasure, the newest Esperanza newsletter (November '06 edition) can be found at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Newsletter. —Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, The Halo, Shreshth91 and HighwayCello, 20:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Thanks for the friendly welcome!I've been working on stubs for a while, but I'm excited to start on these! (They're, like, mini-stubs, aren't they?) Devotchka 07:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] SorryPlease don't be offended by my edit, I only felt the wording was awkward. NMajik 23:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Notorious departures.The person you need to talk to is User:TrackerTV who added the original vague notice that gave the impression that he was banned from ALL of the site ([14]), which is {{banned user}} territory. Following your revert, I revised the original notice to be exactly understandable, which was the objection you made in that edit summary. 68.39.174.238 00:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] admin coaching stuffWeirdness abounds.. I'll look into it. I don't see any reason for changing the way things are. At least from my perspective, admin coaching seems to work just fine. Are you coaching these days? My coachee hasn't edited since Oct 31 so nothing's happened yet. --Fang Aili talk 19:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] ??Why did you delete Ubertelos??? you have no direct right. can you justify this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ubertelos (talk • contribs). [edit] Your worriesHi there. I noticed at the deletion discussion for the Virtual Classroom set up by The Transhumanist, you said the following: "Comments like this also worry me.". Do you mind if I ask you why my comments worry you, and what relevance my comments had to the deletion discussion? Carcharoth 18:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] QuestionPlease let me know if you are still involved in the article Sheriff (company) or you quit the attempt to solve the dispute. Thanks.--MariusM 22:15, 9 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Thank You!Thanks for the barnstar! You might be able to help me with a question of Laornis (which is still stub-class, but I have improved it a fair bit and added some info). First, you might know whether the material described in 1870 was indeed collected that year, or earlier. Second, the binomen edvardsianus puzzles me - Cope comes to mind, but he and Marsh apparently hated each other in 1870. Dysmorodrepanis 04:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Ceres
I reverted it because asteroid belt automatically refers to the main asteroid belt: there are no others in the solar system. There are other groups of asteroids, and there is the Kuiper Belt, but those are not the same thing. Michaelbusch 22:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Request for administrator attentionI'd like to place links to the Admin coaching program at the following locations, but they keep getting systematically removed or reverted:
I've also placed a see also reference in the lead paragraph of Administrators' reading list, but I don't know how long it will last. Various reasons have been cited, including "it's a controversial program of a controversial group". Whatever the reasons, the end result is that Admin coaching is being choked off and isolated from the Wikipedia community of which it is supposedly a part. I thought you would like to know. Sincerely, The Transhumanist 04:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Cavalry award
[edit] Congrats + FavourCongrats on Stegosaurus making it to FA status!!! Woot!!! A pity I didn't help more with the process. Don't forget to request it for the main page, as we still have Pssitacosaurus, Albertabausrus & now Stegosaurus which haven't appeared on the main page. If you take care of Stegosaurus, I might request the other 2. Or if you like I can do everything for you. Up to you. Anyway, since you're an admin, I thought I'd call upon you to throw your hand into a revert war on the Nero page. I don't want the disagreement to lead to the article being protected fully or someone being blocked for the 3RR. The situation is posted on the Nero talk page, but I'll give a summary here. Well, I've been contributing to the article, however the user HoshiDoshi has consistantly reverted all of my edits. My edits are factually correct, are cited & are pretty well phrased too. I did a lot of work & if you would see fit, I was wondering if you could revert his edits. I don't want anyone blocked incase this is in violation of some rule. He seems like he is a newer user & he has control issues over the article. I have a lot of good stuff to go on the article, but all my efforts are futile until this is resolved. So if you could just throw in your professional view etc, it would be much appreciated... Thanks Firsfron... Spawn Man 23:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Well what about making the Prehistoric life project as a parent project of WP:Dino? That way it would make better sense & you guys wouldn't have to do much other than change the parentage section on the project page... What do ya say? Spawn Man 22:51, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stegosaurus and the CavalryThank you for your post, it is much appreciated. If you ever want me to help out on another article just ask, I would be glad to do what I can. Oh, and congratulations on Stegosaurus making featured article status. The best, Mark t young 00:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC) Thanks for your kind words and congratulations for the FA status of Stegosaurus. I am a relatively new user (since Aug 2006) but now am quite addicted to Wikipedia. What's next ? Cheers. ArthurWeasley 16:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] List of Celebrity Deathmatch episodesSomebody is vandalizing the list of celebrity deathmatch episodes. It's serious and I think I should tell you because you are one of the experts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by F.Barrera (talk • contribs). [edit] Thank youJust here to say thanks for the message. I've actually been using Wikipedia for quite some time now, just never got round to registering. Thanks agin. The Copper 17 11:59, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Need help sorting Dave Small vs David SmallThere is currently an article for David Small (author for child literature) and I've added an entry for Dave Small (computer Scientist) also known as David Small. I beleive we should move the pages around but I know it is regulated so I'm asking for your advice to make sure I don't vandalize wikipedia :-) See the talk page for more details. Thanks, StephaneOdul 19:33, 13 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Dino imagesThanks for all your tips. As for pictures, I've posted my first three productions on the Amargasaurus, Polacanthus and Acrocanthosaurus pages. Tell me what you think. I am not very happy with the Polacanthus one myself so feel free to remove it if you don't like it either. Found that BW looks better than color so will continue in BW. ArthurWeasley 22:23, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hoshidoshi & Nero - Wit's end!!!I know I can always count on you to keep me calm Firsfron, but I'm at my wit's end!!! Hoshidoshi has placed a comment here link, before reverting my hours of edits to the Nero page link. I've left an annoyed post on User talk:Hoshidoshi, stating that in some cases, he is not right. I've refrained from simply reverting his edits constantly, instead opting to talk it out. However he continuously reverts my edits & gives pathetic reasons such as they're not primary sources. In all my FA's, I've never had this quarry!! I mean I had one souce from Bob Bakker, a well trusted paleontologist, yet he got his info from other's work. This is insane!!! It's putting me off working contructively here & I need a resolution now!! I'm going to contact a couple of other admins to sort it out, cause I'm trying to get 1000 edits this month. I can't if my current project is being destroyed by a newish user who has no idea about refs, reverts every single edit of mine & doesn't even know how to sign his name properly!!!! I'm losing it Firsfron. Please revert his revert please as it took me nearly an hour writing all of that & he has no right to revert it without discussion first & considering it's cited & acurate. I'm prepared to let some stuff go (as I have many times before on my FA's), but this user is being very unreasonalbe, & is not aware of rules on Wikipedia... I don't want to have to request the article be protected, as this would serve no purpose to anyone & he isn't interested in talking it out!!! Thanks, Spawn Man 01:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] MfDAs you're probably aware: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Esperanza. What the heck. --Fang Aili talk 17:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] SegisaurusThanks! I'm not even finished yet though. I got that form the first page of the findings report.... :) Spawn Man 02:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] re: Dinosaur pronunciationHi, thank you for the welcome. :D I'll try what I can, and if I run into problems I'll let everyone know at the project's talk page. :) --Kjoonlee 17:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Re : CivilityWhen I said 'I don't care' , I was referring to the idea that some people tend to attempt to twist WP:CIVIL, saying that if you are incivl your comments shouldn't 'count'. I don't care if someone has decided that I'm being incivil in that regard, since being civil appearantly only gets one attacked en masse. If you can point out the user I made a personal attack against, I will happily remove my comments. However, as you well know from reading the comment, I did not direct that at any particular user, and I was even careful not to mention any specific arguments through diffs or direct quotes. On the other hand, I have been accused of bad faith, accused of having an agenda, and accused of voting simply to delete out of hatred for Esperanza. While I understand that you, as an admin, have to act against percieved incivility, I wonder if you have done likewise to any of the participants in the MfD for Esperanza that have also made incivil commments. --Elaragirl ||||||Talk|Count 17:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] You're welcomeI'm relieved it's over. I think now's the time for Esperanza to overhaul itself. --Fang Aili talk 21:03, 15 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Shortest dinosaurs articlesHi, thanks for your kind comments. I've noticed the good work that WikiProject Dinosaurs has done in particular the excellent List of dinosaurs. I would like to add information to the articles on the shortest dinosaurs mini project but found the lack of reference material on the web rather frustrating I could not find enough verifiable information to create a stub for Dong or his book The Age of Dinosaurs in Japan and China, which is a shame as I think any such articles help clarify the rather confusing world of undescribed dinosaurs and nomen nudum! CheekyMonkey 21:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re: SarcasmI think some people mistook my sarcastic Deletionist Party comment as something real. No two deletionists agree on anything, and the Association of Deletionists is a Meta BJAODN type of page. No incivility intended.--Elaragirl ||||||Talk|Count 21:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Dinosaur clean upsAh, I see you've been noticing my clean up efforts for the dinosaur articles. I need to get 1000 edits this month, so I'm going through & doing anything I can to the articles. Thanks for the encouragement Firsfron... :) Spawn Man 00:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Sources that proves links between Smirnov's family and SheriffHi Firsfron, you let me a message regarding my unwillingness to compromise in Sheriff (company) article, where you were invited by Mauco to mediate our dispute. The reason I don't accept to write in the article that there are clashes between Smirnov and the company Sheriff is because I believe this is not true and we should not accept falacies in Wikipedia. Bellow are sources, some from this year, that shows that Smirnov has strong ties with Sheriff. Please read them and comment on article talk page. Also, as article is protected, please take out the paragraph with untrue comments regarding so-called clashes between Smirnov and Sheriff (at least until we reach an agreement).--MariusM 09:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
From all those sources I like most the commentary of e-democracy: "interests of the "Smirnov clan" are represented in all three movements, including the victorious movement Obnovlenye is a proof in this regard. The famous firm "Sheriff" has among its leaders one of Smirnov's son, who has recently became lawmaker, supports the latter. Of course, no serious clan "keeps its eggs in one basket," and this thing also defines the Transnistrian pluralism that the so-called democratic elections in the region were based on. One can say the three heads of the same "separatist dragon" form the political pluralism in Transdniestria."--MariusM 09:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Virtual classroom updateWell, we've moved on to our second lesson in the Virtual classroom, though each lesson is continuous so we may see more additions to the interface share and compare discussion as well. The current topic of discussion is "stubbing," with a short course to kick things off provided by our resident expert on the subject, Grutness. To help keep track of what's going on, here's a template you can place at the top of your userpage or talk page:
Hope to see you at the Virtual classroom soon. The Transhumanist 12:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Dean Smith articleHow does the lead on the Dean Smith article look now? Remember 13:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Chinese TaipeiHey there. I would like to get your input on something. There is a controversy over the use of Taiwan as a parenthetical for Chinese Taipei as I believe (from experience) that most English speakers have no idea that Chinese Taipei is, in fact, a reference to Taiwan. Opponents of the simple parenthetical state that the official IOC designation is Chinese Taipei, which is true. However, those same people do NOT use the official IOC designation for China, Iran, Palestine, Laos, and Korea. I find it hypocritical. I also find it is obstructive because we are trying to provide information that MOST people will find useful. Using Chinese Taipei doesn't accomplish that purpose. With (Taiwan) as a parenthetical it does. Far more people know the term Taiwan than know Chinese Taipei. Well, please check out the Talk:2006 Asian Games page for the discussion. Thanks. Ludahai 07:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Articles left on holdYou've left two articles on hold for GA past the specified time limit, Keane and Western concert flute. Please either pass or fail these articles and remove them from the list at WP:GAC. This would be much appreciated. Best, Moreschi 22:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] SheriffHi Firsfron. I stated my opinion in Sheriff talk page. Please join the discussion. Also, if consensus will take longer to reach, please revert your edits which were done without a consensus.--MariusM 14:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] OrcomimusExpanded this a little bit off what info I could rummage up. Is it big enough now to remove from the WP:Dino's Shortest dinosaur articles list?? Thanks Firsfron... :) Spawn Man 23:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Esperanza admin coachingI'm not sure if you know, but since China re-blocked Wikipedia, Exir Kamalabadi can no longer edit on Wikipedia, and we cannot continue with the admin coaching. =( Nishkid64 20:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] 2006 Asian Games"Note: This is also only this user's second edit to Wikipedia. How did you come to find this place, sir?" i promised myself to keep quiet since i'm not a party to this but i can't help it. i'm a law student and i practice argumentation daily because my professor told me that it's an investment for future lawyers, so pardon me. with all due respect to you as an administrator of this community, i believe your note is perfectly fine but the question is akward. there is a subliminal message behind that question which was made to look otherwise, but under the pretense of suspicion. The 2006 Asian Games talk page is just ONE (1) mouse-click away from the article about Asia's biggest sporting event which happens to have started the 18th of November (football games and some others for that matter) and the context: "new comers are ignorant of talk pages". i'm reading between the lines so i might lose this debate. taking the question literally, you clearly showed prejudice on the presumption of ignorance to new comers with regards to finding the discussion pages. have you overlooked the fact that the games is on-going? are you not open to the idea of an ever increasing page viewership because this particular article tops the list of major search engines (which includes, but not limited to: Yahoo!, search.com and Google)? as tough as it is to win an international football game, i cannot even fathom what Sir Bernard feels that figuratively sent him down on his knees apologizing for the action each and every member of this community is entitled to--the right to suffrage.RebSkii 21:37, 19 November 2006 (UTC) i might lose my wikipedia access because of my big mouth but then again, i can't stop it. so let me add this: we have the right to speak up and be heard.RebSkii 21:37, 19 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] NosenuggetsCan you please talk to Nosenuggets? First, he moved an item I put in last Wednesday in Portal:Current events/Sports to Tuesday, insisting that it took place on Tuesday in the U.S., so it should be on Tuesday on the portal, even though the announcement took place on Wednesday in Japan. After a very short revert war, he desisted after I warned him against further reverts and started a discussion about it on the discussion page, where two other regular contributors agreed with my position. Now, late Saturday evening as I was going to bed, I entered the games for Sunday for the Intercontinental Cup. It was already Sunday in some parts of the world, and a little more than an hour before it here, when I made the post. Knowing I would not have time Sunday morning, I put it in. Later, when it was nearly Sunday even in the eastern United States, and daytime Sunday here, he removed it. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/Sports&diff=88690872&oldid=88688096
However, he is far more guilty of a similar offense given that he posted College football games for the upcoming Saturday on THURSDAY, when it was not yet Saturday ANYWHERE in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/Sports&diff=88312042&oldid=88267456 I try to be a reasonable person, but when people are unreasonable like Nosenuggets, I feel actions need to be taken. Thanks. Ludahai 05:16, 20 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Editcountitis
[edit] Dashanpusaurus:Thanks for the kind words. It felt good creating a dinosaur article again, as you guys seem to beat me to it all the time. This time I went mad & created Shaximiao Formation as well, the formation in which it was found. Hope you like them... :) Spawn Man 01:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sheriff, neverending storyHi Firsfron. Maybe you should look at Sheriff (company), where edit war started again. Maybe you can help with [15].--MariusM 09:55, 23 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Mifunesaurus:I've been trying to add to this article, but a problem has occurred... Why in the article does it state that it has not been described, when 2 links, including the one provided, that I have found say that it has been described, by both one Heng in 1985 & one Dong? Is it still a nomen nudum or has it been described? Thanks Firsfron, Spawn Man 00:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Duh, me get it now Firsfron! Me hungry.... ;) Spawn Man 06:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Heck yes I did! I created Antartica's Mount Kirkpatrick Formation! Yay! Hopefully it's not too bad or anything... Boy, creating formation articles is awesome! :) Spawn Man 05:48, 25 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Thanks!Thanks for the welcome! I've actually been on Wikipedia for some time, but I only recently registered. Sphenacodon 09:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Mauco and meHi Firsfron. After both me and Mauco were blocked for edit warring, first thing Mauco did after block was over was to revert me, without any explanation revert on Sheriff. You are familiar with article Sheriff, but he reverted me in other 5 different articles as well, without any explanation in talk pages: Politics of Transnistria (see talk page: we had a dispute, an other mediator was brought to solve it, there are 4 wikipedians who want to include a paragraph, only Mauco opposed; after a compromise proposal was proposed by mediator which remained unanswered by Mauco, paragraph was included but Mauco reverted without explanations) List of unrecognized countries, War of Transnistria (revert with the misleading comment that information belong to an other article - Raşcov, while info he took out was not about Raşcov), Gîsca and Mikhail Burla. What should I do? If I revert Mauco both of us again will be blocked again? Regarding Sheriff, I gave 12 (twelve) refferences to support my view that between Smirnov familly and company Sheriff there are strong links. Between refferences - BBC, Washington Times, San Francisco Chronicles, which can not be considered biases, contrary with Mauco's links, which are from Russian or Transnistrian sources (the entire politicla game in Transnistria being the desire of Russia to anex this region). I consider that mauco don't want Wikipedia readers to be correctly infromed about Transnistria, he is only doing denial propaganda in favour of Transnistrian regime. Please let me know your opinions.--MariusM 23:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] StegosaurusYay! I'm the first to congradulate you on getting "Steggie" to the main page at last! It looks great. That's one for the Dino brag book. :) Spawn Man 07:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] HowdyHi Firsfron. I saw that you're editing and figured I'd say hi. How goes? Good job being #269 by # of edits. I saw myself in the 500s and was amazed--I thought there'd be way more people with more edits than me. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving! --Fang Aili talk 17:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stegosaurus and..Hey, thanks for the advice (which I've taken). To be honest I never even considered trolls and baddies, lol! Hope all is going well with the Stegosaurus vandal fighting, and if you have any future advice to impart, please don't hestiate! The best, Mark t young 18:05, 27 November 2006 (UTC) Hey, again Firstron, No it wasn't presumptuous of you. I suppose I am just a little (?!?) naive when it comes to thinking the worst in people. But, yes I will be around for the next feature-article dinosaur. Which is going to be Diplodocus I take it? Mark t young 18:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] StegosaurusHey, Can you revert Stegosaurus back to: 20:07, November 27, 2006 ArthurWeasley (Talk | contribs) (rvv) as all the subsequent reverts have mistakes, and I don't know how to revert articles. This is really starting to annoy me! :-( Mark t young 19:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Diplodocus and StegosaurusYup, I was just passing by and the big red fonts struck me. The Stegosaurus article is under siege by heavy vandalism since it made it to the main page (btw, congratulations to all the dino team). Should somebody request semi-protection or should we just wait the end of the storm?ArthurWeasley 20:02, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stegosaurus photoHi Firsfron, I'm just writing an email to the park management to ask if it is possible to keep publishing photos on the free licence. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get an answer. I'm sorry for such situation. I was not aware I need permission from sculpture owners to publish the photo. Jakubhal 21:58, 27 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] Zigong Dinosaur Museum PhotosJust a couple of quick uploads. I put some links in my talk page for a few photos and a couple on the Zigong wiki page. I will try to sort through the photos and upload some more. Cheers! Phreakster 1998 02:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] talk:DinosaurI managed to stay calm, polite, and reasonable through the first couple of rounds of that discussion, but then something happened to my patience. It snapped. I'll just refrain from further comments in that section, but if you choose to respond further, I'll be watching from the sidelines : ) Doc Tropics 04:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC) OK, sometimes I can't resist picking a scab off to see what's underneath. Here's what our friendly IP editor has been up to: contrib history. He's confined himself to talkpages, and it's unlikely he'll do any damage, but this seems to verge on disruption by posting similar nonsense at several pages. Should everyone just work around him until he goes away? Would a note on the talkpage be in order, or totally non-productive? (I'm doubtfull, but willing to try). Or do you think this is actually disruptive enough to warrant a short block? I'm curious about your opinion since you have the mop-and-bucket at your disposal. Doc Tropics 05:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC) There have indeed been further developments regarding the IP editor, and now I'm less-than-amused. There is evidence here that blocked user kdbuffalo (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) is responsible for these edits. This is particularly frustrating because he was specifically blocked for disruption and trolling at Evolution, and is now rather blatantly evading the block. I'm bringing this to your attention because you suggested that I should; would you prefer that I forward this to WP:ANI? This definitely warrants intervention, but it's not everyone's cup of tea. I know you're in transit right now, so I'll await your response. Thanks, Doc Tropics 06:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Firs, thanks so much for your "few minor fixes" to the article; you put a fine polish on it! No doubt Greebo cat will purr. I'll let you know how the DYK nom turns out, or with luck, you'll see for yourself. It's just as well you took time for supper, little details (like food) are important. The "excitement" was minimal, but so is my tolerance for that kind of nonsense. Thanks again for your work on the article, and let me know if I can ever return the favor somehow. Doc Tropics 08:57, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Protecovasaurus:I've expanded this article. However, the previous revision of the article said it was an ornithischian. My link however, Dinodata, says it is actually a nomen nudum archosaur. If so, is the taxo box still correct, & is Dinodata in fact actually right? In any case, I hopefully got it off the shortest dino stubs page? Thanks Firsfron, Spawn Man 00:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stegosaurus photo againHi Firsfron, I'm glad to inform you I have just received permission to publish my photos from Bałtów under the terms of free licences. I've updated description pages. Hopefully there would be no more complaints. Regards, Jakubhal 14:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC) [edit] dinosaur illustration needsHello Firsfron - I've been snooping through your Dinosaur efforts and am in awe. I was wondering you your effort wanted help in the form of illustrations? I enjoy tackling wikipedia requests and you can see the nicest examples here: radula, ascocarp, [16], and Symmetry_group. Let me know. Debivort 20:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dinosaur image reviewFirs, thanks for your nice comments. I think this image review process is very useful and I really appreciate all the comments I could receive from you guys. Is there somewhere a wishlist of the most wanted illustration ? If not, I will simply continue picking ramdomly any dinosaur that I fancy and make a drawing out of it (I usually look first to see if there is a skeletal reconstruction available somewhere to have the general shape of the animal right). I'll also try to look on the wiki article to see if illustration is lacking, something I should have done in the first place earlier: the spots for corythosaurus, suchomimus, dilophosaurus and pentaceratops are already occupied... If there is no objection I'll move scutellosaurus and shunosaurus on their pages (the mammals are already posted). ArthurWeasley 21:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] ApatosaurusFirs, looks like you accidentally erased the Apatosaurus article! ArthurWeasley 00:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC) |
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