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User talk:Fire Star Archive February 2004 - October 2006

Contents 1 New messages below this line 2 Last time, I promise. 3 Falun Gong mediation 4 User:Martialarm - a self-advertiser 5 Could you help 6 Thanks for the warm welcome 7 Sock puppets 8 Dahn Yoga Cult 9 Video Game 10 Afd deleted article is back 11 Aikido article 12 Tai Chi Chuan 13 Tessenjutsu 14 Very old news that's become new again

[edit] New messages below this line

I re-introduced the text that you had reverted on Tom Cruise. The reason why I re-wrote the intro initially is because the language was abusive. Intros of encyclopedial articles should summarize a person's life and/or achievement, and not necessarily highlight the negative instances of the personality's life which are temporary anyway. I hope this clarifies things for you and help you contribute to articles for which you will be commended and not vice versa....NeutralWriter

[edit] Last time, I promise.

I accidently recreated the deleted page Alberto garcia when changing the DB template from G1 to G4.

Sorry.

Logical2u 03:31, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Falun Gong mediation

Hello, I'm sorry it's been awhile, but I recently agreed to mediate that case. I don't know if it's a stale issue, so it would be good if a few of you let me know whether or not mediation is still needed. Since there are so many of you, I'm going to assume that all of you agree to me mediating until and unless I am told otherwise. I'm also going to assume public mediation is fine, unless someone asks for private mediation, or I come to think private mediation might be better. I would, however, appreciate it if you just said something there to let me know if you are still around. Also, assuming you are still interested in mediation, please watchlist the page if you haven't already. Thanks! Armedblowfish (talk|mail) 02:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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Hello Firestar. I want to inform you that a genuine cult has almost only promotional information on its Wikipedia page. The group is Dahn Yoga and its a criminal organization. Can you administer the page for the benefit of the unsuspecting public? Research the group and then check out its page and you will find a huge discrepancy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.20.116.7 (talk • contribs).

[edit] User:Martialarm - a self-advertiser

Has been heading through martial arts articles and adding links to his website which sells the "martial arm", I've reverted a few changes (and I've seen others have been too). The user already had a message about innappropriate linking on his talk page, can you take some action? -- Medains 16:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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Hello. Why did you delete the Wikipedism page?

Eric.thomas 16:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could you help

Tomananda is unfairly blocked. He exhausted his 3 reverts on this page but he did not violate the 3RR rule. I contacted the admin that blocked him the following is his response. What is more unfair is that Olaf Stephanos who had just as many reverts on that page was not blocked. Could you help unblock Tomananda?--Yueyuen 20:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

3RR is not an entitlement to 3 reverts. Edit warring is prohibited. Also, the threshhold for information on Wikipedia is not truth, but verifiability; Wikipedia is not the place to reveal "the truth" except through reliable sources. Please also read Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. —Centrx→talk • 07:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the warm welcome

Hi, thanks for starting my talkpage. I am kind of a newbie here. I basically search for small mistakes, typos and vandalisms and try to correct them. I just wanted to thank you.

By the way, I see you are into martial arts. I find it a very interesting subject. You won't believe it, but I actually manufacture martial arts weapons in my free time and sell them in my country through "eBay"! (I didn't put the link here to avoid being considered a spammer). Well, anyways, I don't want to take up all the space here. Thanks for the help. You are welcomed in my talkpage. Regards, Daguerio 21:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sock puppets

I recently received a long series of comments on the talk page of my Leitai article from a user named Francombat. I don’t want to go into great detail about his comments; I’ll let the talk page do it for me. That having been said, I believe he has created a total of 3 different accounts to make it seem like more than one person was pissed off about my article. These accounts were created within days, hours, or even minutes of eachother. They are: Francombat, SheldonWongs and Youwannafight.

If you refer to their user pages, you will see that not a thing is written about them. I have left messages in their talk pages about how I think they are sock puppets of each other.

He’s even sunk so low as to write me insulting messages at my myspace account. Do you think you could look into this whole 3 accounts thing for me? I'm pretty sure that having multiple accounts and harassing another user (just to get his way) is against some sort of regulations. Please don’t think I’m some frail teenage boy, I served in the U.S. Army 82nd Airborne division, so I can put up with whatever this guy dishes out. But he is really starting to get on my nerves. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 09:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC))

Thanks for your help. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 22:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC))

Now, he just put our discussion on a section "archive" in order to not display at the first time our discussion.

Whatever, we are presently working to write, registered copyright, and built new website with our Professional combat sport. After the work done, i'm gonna come back with a Wekipedia user skilled and expert in order to change the things featuring pictures, Video etc...from both Federation.

Thanks you for your careful attention

Francombat 08:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

It is normal to put large pages into archives. I received a notice that the discussion was getting to big at the top of the page. People can access it by clicking the link. I did not delete it. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 18:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Dahn Yoga Cult

I am worried that the page you edited is not sufficient enough regarding the numerous existing online resources about that renowned criminal organization, Dahn Yoga. These people ruin people's lives and ruin the reputation of qigong and martial arts lovers like yourself. They have committed numerous crimes and lie extensively about their criminal operation. Please do a better job of editing their page. Thank you, all of the victims of this cult will be mighty grateful towards you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.207.18.65 (talk • contribs).

They do seem to be a dodgy group. You'll have to trust me that the article is as close to a condemnation as you are likely to get on Wikipedia, where we have to let the sources do the talking, not us. Cheers, --Fire Star 火星 03:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

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I'm introducing myself to you. My name is Franco Richard also known as Francombat, I'm a French Canadian-American actor and the World Kuoshu Lei Tai heavyweight Champion since 2002. I'm also the president of the Canadian Chinese Kuoshu Federation. When i started to look at this website, i didn't know about freelance writer who can edit on a subject that they don't have knowledge to write it. (No offence, but he accepted to make change after a discussion of three pages). I would love also that you check out this discussion. All i tried to do here, is tried to bring my knowledge at the Lei Tai article as well as to edit the article myself. (each time, he was online tried to erase my contribution) The main goal is to not make some promotion or anything like that, but simply correcting his article with reference as well as to invite him to read carefuly our websites which he taken some info.

I'm also concerning about wikipedia. I have already tried to expose my point of view to this guy. Of course we gonna write a article about Kuoshu. Please, read our discussion, He taken some info on our website and he didn't wrote correctly the name of the Federation named by one of my master. It is easy to understand after all my request that he doesen't know at all and doesen't want to adds the correction.

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As i told you, i didn't know about the rules of Wikipedia but now i know. Look how many time i asked him the add some change, he said " you want to bring something constructive, do it." I tried many time but with the system and his experience here on Wikipedia i never succeed to improve correctly this article. He would like to add some picture of Lei Tai fighting but he don't have as well as he taken the only info that he have on the net.

I didn't want to be rude at all, but you have to agree that this situation as nothing to do with his titles or stuff like that. I asking you to prove me that i'm intention is wrong and i don't know about my own organization. Of course this article is about Lei Tai, but in the Chinese Martial art communauty there are two prominent organization who promote a Chinese fighting style completely different and only one federation is committed to promote the Chinese tradition. In the Kung fu magazine, you can also read, The world's toughest Tournament writted about the Kuoshu. It's not an advertising, the magazine published this article. Also, The name of both organization is Wushu and Kuoshu. The name of the Wushu competitive format is Sanshou as well as the name of the competitive format for Kuoshu is "Kuoshu Lei Tai". I know that the name of the kuoshu fighting format is with the name of the organization, but what can we say or do, Asking at the Federation to change the name(lol.

Please answer me at this question, why did you sent me this message. Did you read our discussion or not? Whatever, we have to fix this problem, that all.

We think, me and all the kuoshu athletes, that if he really want to contribute to Wikipedia with deeply research, he should be better to ask to someone or simply reach on both federation involved in this discussion on their own contact page, Don't you think?

I'm also sorry about my language, I speak French, learning Ke-jia-hua from my wife and now i'm learning English.

Here some website which you can read and see what i'm talking about: www.TWKSF.org www.USCKF.org www.usckfnorth.org www.GCKF.de Frenchkuoshu.fr Kuoshu.ru www.British.Kuoshu.co.uk www.TEKSF.org

Sincerely,

Franco Richard CEO, Francombat Management Inc. 69.234.21.105 07:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Only now does he act civil once I've reported him to Wikipedia and Myspace administrators for his insults. He has got the wrong idea about me. I have stated many times I am willing to work with him. But there is one thing I have to say. I wouldn't care if he was the president of the United States. His position (if it is true) holds no sway with me at all. So far, the only thing he has proven to me is that he uses his position to push people around or to try to get his way. Now that he knows that no longer works, he is trying to be nice.

I have a feeling if we let him have his way with the article; he would completely delete every bit of information about Sanshou’s involvement with the lei tai. He once told me,

If Sanda no longer uses a lei tai, why is there a picture of the “Nine Suns Mountain Sanda Lei tai” being used in a 2004 Chinese national boxing competition currently on the lei tai page? Also, the current Rules for International Wushu Sanshou Competition (accessible from the Lei tai page) involves awarding points to fighters who throw or force their opponents from the platform! It just seems that he wants to write an unbalanced article with ONLY guoshu material. I’ve also told him on several occasions that he needs to write an article about the Kuoshu Federation. But I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to remind him that the Lei tai page is not about the Kuoshu organization itself.

He keeps on telling me how this page is going to be deleted because I didn’t consult his organization first. The lei tai existed well before his organization was even created. I am not showing any disrespect or bias to either Sanda or Kuoshu organizations at all. If I was, why would I put them into this article?

And regarding whatever material I supposedly took from his organization's website, he is wrong. I got the "dimensions" for the Kuoshu lei tai from this page. I got the information for the "Kuoshu" section from Kung Fu Magazine, which I cite. I have shown the article to Gene Ching, the current associate publisher of the magazine and he liked it a lot. He even suggested that I give it a rewrite to make it a little less encyclopedic and submit it for publication.(!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 18:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC))

No problem. I used to be in the U.S. Army 82nd Airborne Division, so I know that certain rules need to be followed. I have also written the United States Kuoshu Federation in regards to Francombat's claims to verify his position. I included the first insulting letter he sent me on myspace, so I hope to be hearing from them soon. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 17:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Video Game

Can you tell me what the name of this video game is? Could you also tell me some of the details of the game if it is mentioned on the page? My chinese is not so good.

http://bo.sohu.com/game/leitai.shtml

I found this a long while ago, but just recently found it again by typing in the Chinese characters for "Da Lei Tai". I would like to add snapshots of this game to the lei tai article as it falls under the fair use rule.

By the way, isn't that the character for wu ("martial") in the middle of the lei tai?(!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 18:13, 17 November 2006 (UTC))

Thanks a bunch! I looked around and found that it is better known as just "刀剑 Online" as it was abbriviated on the page. So I'm just going to put its name as 刀剑 Online. Thanks again. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 23:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC))

Sorry to keep on bothering you, but I found another Chinese video game with a lei tai. (See here) Could you tell me the name and details for this one? (Ghostexorcist 04:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC))

Here is another game. (see the very first picture near the top here) (Ghostexorcist 05:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Afd deleted article is back

Hi me again. Curious about the proper way to deal with a recreated Afd article. I had put a notability tag on Jung Sin Yuk-Do but after a snide remark on my talk page I looked deeper and found that it had relatively recently been deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jung Sin Yuk-Do. I put {{subst:afdx|2nd}} for basically the same reasons given in the original debate (and I don't like snide remarks) but it wasn't clear that this was the correct way to proceed. Please advise - if only for future reference.Peter Rehse 02:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC) PS Seemed what I did worked pretty quick. Taken care of - thanks anyway.Peter Rehse 08:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aikido article

I also think that the Aikido article is at a stage where it could be nominated for good article (GA) status. I'ld appreciate it if someone not related to the editing could take a look and see if it is worth nominating. CheersPeter Rehse 02:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tai Chi Chuan

I've nominated it for GA but I suggest trimming the external links and peppering the text with some citation/references. I actually think that both the Aikido article and Tai Chi Chuan are candidates for Featured article but lets do this one step at a time. You might want to submit the article for peer review. I wont do that to the Aikido article since there has already been quite a cooperative effort. I submitted Sumo for featured article today (already one opposition) but for our respective pets - first GA and then the world.Peter Rehse 01:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tessenjutsu

Can you (being one of the all powerfull ones) ban User:DrNostrand.Peter Rehse 07:46, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Very old news that's become new again

Do you remember way back in October 2004 when there was a dispute at Talk:Cross-dressing?[1] [2] [3] Involving an editor called User:AWilliamson?[4] [5] [6] Well - I've collected a heap of evidence that he became the Wikipedia:Long_term_abuse#Joan_of_Arc_vandal and has disrupted a variety of topics for over two years. Consensus has been building for a community ban at WP:ANI#Admin_plays_detective...what_next.3F. Very few administrators have come into contact with this person other than me and you're one of them. I'd like to see what you think of things. Regards, Durova^Charge! 21:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)