Talk:Finland Swedish
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[edit] sweden-finnish?
As well as a Finland dialect of Swedish, i've also heard of a Sweden dialect of Finnish. I don't know much about this however, yet.Gringo300 12:41, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yes, Sweden has a quite large Finnish minority. Tornedalsfinska (Meänkieli) has oficial status as a minority language.. --Njård 11:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
It's worth mentioning that in addition to the Tornedal Finns there's an even bigger minority of Finns spread all over Sweden. Therefore Finnish is widely spoken in Sweden. --Alexej 19:04, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Language regulation
I heard that the Finland-Swedish language regulation is quite different from the approach in Sweden. The official aim is to keep the language similar to the standard swedish spoken in sweden, particularly hard on borrowings or calques from finnish, which would be ununderstandable in Sweden. This approach is different from the swedish academy, which sometimes give recommendations, but mainly accepts the majority usage as the correct one. I think this should be added to the page...
Added the comment: Language Regulation The Finland-Swedish language is regulated by the "Swedish Department" at the "Research Institute for the Languages of Finland" in Finland. There is an officially stated aim that the Finland-Swedish dialect should remain close to the Swedish spoken in Sweden, thus the Swedish Department strongly advices against loanwords and calques from Finnish, which would often be incomprehensible to swedes from Sweden.
- Mentioned högsvenska (Standard Finland-Swedish) using the article in http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/högsvenska as a source of information.
[edit] Dialects
There are many dialects in Finland-Swedish, and they can differ a lot from place to place even if it's only a few kilometers between. If someone wants to start writing about the different dialects i propose to use the following article names: Swedish dialects in Ostrobothnia, Swedish dialects in Western Nylandia, Swedish dialects in Eastern Nylandia and Swedish dialects in Åboland. That should be a good start, when a text about a specific dialect grows too big we'll just move it to its own article. Anyone feel like doing this? bbx 16:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to perhaps start describing the different dialect groups in this article first? Any linguistic terminology for the dialects would be good. Peter Isotalo 22:21, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Article split
Since this article clearly is meant to refer to the variant of Swedish rather than Finland-Swedes, I've moved all material that is mainly concerned with the ethnic group as well as the relevant discussions to that article and its talkpage respectively. Please try to keep these things separate from now on. This article is supposed to be mainly about the linguistic aspects of the various Finland-Swedish dialects, not about the people who speak them.
Peter Isotalo 20:38, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Most Swedish-speaking municipalities in the world
I have heard this claim that the municipality in the world that has the largest percentage of Swedish-speakers is in Finland, then then it was claimed to be Närpes. Does anyone know the facts behind this claim? Since we don't have statistics on people's languages in Sweden in the way they do in Finland, I wonder how the comparison is made - and frankly, I doubt that this is correct although often repeated. / Habj 21:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- I guess that was from the time when there were many municipalities in Finland where there were no foreigners. But I think it wasn't Närpiö, originally. It has never been without Finnish-speaking minority. I guess originally it was about some Åland's island municipality. --Lalli 10:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yes this is true, i think in fact both the first and second most swedish-speaking places in the world are in Finland, one of them is on Åland, i think. But i can't find which one it is. It was featured atleast in the tv-show "värsta språket" on swedish television, but apaprently they do not have backlogs enough for the tv-shows on svt.se. But this is pretty much trivia as they are both places with a few hundred inhabitants or something like that so a few finnish speakers or foreigners moving in would change that. Gillis 19:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Input requested
Hi. We could use some outside input over at Categories for discussion. In particular, here we have two people arguing over what to call Category:Finland-Swedish, and another couple of opinions could be very helpful. Thanks! -GTBacchus(talk) 20:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
