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[edit] Whale

The rather prominent whale should be added to the list of species, though I forget what type of whale it is.. 33° 23:38, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Looks like a Blue whale. The only difference I can see is that the blue whale doesn't appear to have the white underside like the one in the movie, nor as wide a jaw - Fizscy46 01:56, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Could be a Fin whale then: that last external link from Blue whale leads to an article implying that the two can possibly interbreed, noting that one of the most obvious differences is that the Fin whale has a pale underside. HTH --Phil | Talk 08:54, May 5, 2004 (UTC)

I always thought it looked more like a humpback to me... --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 00:16, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)

I think it's a blue whale.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What does "Mount Wannahockaloogie" refer to?

The article states that Mount Wannahockaloogie ("wanna hawk a loogie") is a subtle gag. Too subtle for me: what's it refer to? --Phil | Talk 14:06, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

  • 'Hocking a loogie' is slang for 'coughing up phlegm.' I don't know if this would be spelled 'hocking' or 'hawking;' it's a varient on 'hacking.' I think. The words are onamotepias for the noice someone makes when coughing up pleghm. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 18:39, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

It wasn't so much "what does this mean?" but "where does this phrase come from?" that I was after: the article implies that this is some kind of reference to popular culture which obviously hasn't made it to sunny Buckinghamshire :-) --Phil | Talk 08:56, Jul 29, 2004 (UTC)

It makes a little fun of places with long native names - the infamous US example is Mississippi, which is hard to spell and pronounce right, yet is right in the middle of the country so can't be ignored. "Wannahockaloogie" sounds like a native Hawaiian name (that's what I thought when I first heard it) until you realize they just twisted the slang phrase a bit. Good thing we have an encyclopedia in which to explain all this, eh? :-) Stan 13:46, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
More likely a New Zealand name parody than a Hawaiian name parody. Anyway, what's so hard about "Mississippi"? :) Darcyj 23:37, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nitpicking

Changed parody to pastiche, as I feel it's not really a parody if the oringial was as well.--217.155.42.246 07:52, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I agree with this change --Will2k 20:49, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)
    • Based on pix and descriptions of the manta ray, I agree Mr. Ray isn't one. But it's less clear which ray he is. The picture and description at Eagle ray do suggest a "spotted eagle ray", as suggested, so I've made the change. I'm troubled, however, at the specific absence in any pictures I've seen of the unexplained bulbous growth in the middle of Mr. Ray's tail (if it's a stinger, like a stingray, it's certainly not where I'd expect it — at the end), and by the vague mention of tropical water habitation without a specific mention of Australian seas. Anyone have better info? — Jeff Q 08:40, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bloat's species

Bloat is listed as being a pufferfish, but his spines make him look more like a porcupinefish. Anybody agree?

Ummm...Porcupine fish are a kind of pufferfish.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dark Side of Nemo?

In the cultural references section, it says that Finding Nemo and Darkside of the Moon can be synchronized. Does anybody know at what point the two need to be synchronized or some parts that show a correlation between the two?

Thanks for calling attention to this unsubstantiated rumor. I've removed that statement until someone can provide a credible reference for this urban legend. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
There should be an article on Dark Side of the Moon urban legends. The Wizard of Oz is another movie alleged to synchronise with the album, IIRC. Darcyj 23:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Animated shorts

What animated short(s) aired with this movie at any time? This includes in theters or on DVD/VHS. --Wack'd About Wiki 17:00, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Pixar's 1989 short "Knick Knack" was shown before the main feature in theaters. It was also included on the Finding Nemo DVD release. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:39, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

It should be noted that the version of "Knick Knack" that was released with Finding Nemo was edited from the original version. The orginal version of Knick Knack featured "female" characters with an EXTREMELY large bosom. The edited version was more politically correct featuring "female" characters with almost no bosom at all and a more conservative tube top.

[edit] Globalisation

Why on earth did they have to show Sydney Harbour populated by brown pelicans (escaped from Taronga Zoo?) - would it really have been too hard to get a photo of our own gorgeous big black and white pellies? Also, couldn't Pixar be bothered finding out the difference between North American lobsters, which have huge claws, and Australiasian ones?Lizby 10:45, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

The lobsters are specifically intended to be New England lobsters, thus their accent and use of the term 'wicked daahk' to describe just how dark it was when Marlin fought the big scary fish. 24.62.27.66 21:40, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
yep, the eastern Australian seaboard is known for its NE lobsters...?!!Bel Bel 14:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
There are three ways to look at this. The first way is that the lobsters were, in fact, off of the coast of Boston in New England. Thus, we see that the story of Marlin's courage has spread across the entire ocean! The second is that the lobsters are a specific reference to Massachusetts snuck in there by one of the creators, who was from Rockport, MA. Similar references can be seen in the dentist's office where he has lighthouse lamps modeled after the twin lighthouses off of Thatcher Island and a framed copy of Motif Number One. The last way is that it's a friggin' cartoon and stop with the bitching already. 24.62.27.66 05:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

The "big scary fish" is an anglerfish.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Monty Python Reference

I think it is highly unlikely that 'Bruce' is a reference to the Monty Python sketch that is mentioned. The voice actor Barry Humphries is a reknowned Australian whereas the trivia implies that the accent is put on. Bruce is a common Australian name, so much so that Austalians use it as slang for a man (with Sheila as the female counterpart) - this is more likely the reason why it is used in the film as well as the Monty Python sketch. -- 85.250.13.101 11:06, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

I believe the use of the character name Bruce in the movie is a reference to the movie "Jaws". The mechanical shark used in the filming of "Jaws" was nicknamed Bruce. -- 68.42.19.85 00:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
The source of the name "Bruce" clearly isn't obvious, so it should be sourced. Otherwise, it's just speculation, which is considered original research, which Wikipedia tries to avoid.
If it ain't obvious, leave it out. At the moment we have two explanations, which seem both highly doubtable! Same goes for the Fabio reference. Are these trivia copied from IMDB? That would explain a lot since trivia there occaionally contradict themselves within two phrases...--perelly 23:13, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finding Nemo

Hi Everyone. What happens after Marlin and Dorey go to the FEA?

What FEA? Do you mean EAC? They get swallowed by a whale (intentionally to carry them to Sydney harbour), which blows them out of it's blowhole. Then Nigel the brown pelican takes them to the dentists's office but they think Nemo is dead because he is playing dead to fool Darla. Then they return to the ocean, dissapointed. But Nemo with the help of Gill gets into the sink and into the ocean. He meets Dory and Marlin later but Dory and some groupers get caught in a net. Nemo helps them escape, and everyone returns to the reef. The end.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I think he means that anti-fish shark thing.

[edit] Nemo In Captivity

Here is what we need in this article about what was going on. During Nemo's captivity, Darla, a mean teenage girl, goes to the aquarium to take Nemo as she is being told as she is one of the ocean-fish killers. Nemo was afraid of her, and as she could not keep him at all, during the fight, the plastic bag flew from her hands and landed in the sink and popped and water spilled all out and when Darla got to the sink, she was about to cry and the water shot into her face, and then Nemo returned into the ocean to escape from Sydney. --Zachkudrna18@yahoo.com

teenage?71.99.110.7 22:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Over-Protective Parenting

In the section on "Wider Effects of the film" I am quite surprised there are no references to overprotectiveness - it seems that every discussion I have heard relating to overprotective parenting has included a reference to the movie as the overprotectiveness of Marlin led to Nemo's capture in the first place. Only problem is, I can't make a "fair and balanced" report based solely on anecdotal evidence... Thomasdelbert 23:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What are the seagulls saying?

Is it "mine", or are they saying "mate" in an Australian accent ("Mite? Mite?")? Haven't seen the film since it came out in the cinema, but I've had this conversation with many many people since, and I can't get a definitive answer - it's split about 50/50. I thought it was "mate" personally... Cardinal Wurzel 16:06, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, I actually emailed Pixar, and got an immediate reply! "Thank you for writing Pixar Animation Studios. The seagulls are saying "Mine." Best, Pixar Publicity Team." I'd say that was fairly definitive. that's me told. Cardinal Wurzel 18:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

The commentary supports this. One of the creators says that he grew up in New England and grew to hate seagulls as greedy little winged rats. So in his mind it made perfect sense that in a world where most animals can talk, the only thing a seagull could say would be 'MINE!'. 204.69.40.7 14:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Mine.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] P. Sherman

While I was still in high school, a (Filipino) friend of one of my counselors came in during some cultural assembly. I don't remember his name, but he worked for Pixar during the production of Finding Nemo. One tidbit he told us during his speech went something like:

You remember P. Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney? We named him that because, well, he's a P. Sherman! ("fisherman" under a Tagalog accent)

I'd like to add this to the Trivia section, but I'm not sure of how to add it in an acceptably encyclopedic fashion.

[edit] Nitpick - a whale's mouth and lungs are not connected

While looking for Nemo, Marlin and Dory are taken in the mouth of a baleen whale, who then expels them through it's blowhole, (nostrils). A whale's mouth and lungs are not connected, otherwise, the whale might drown trying to eat. 204.80.61.10 18:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)Bennett Turk

You've got that right.61.230.88.35 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nitpick - fish can't talk

While looking for Nemo, Marlin and Dory speak to one another and to several other undersea creatures numerous times. Neither fish nor lobsters or crabs have the necessary organs required for speaking, nor do they have the capacity to understand the spoken word. 204.69.40.7 14:03, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] reef?

Since when is Nemo's dad's home on Sydney harbor? Willshepherdson 01:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

  • The article now says that Marlin lives in the Great Barrier Reef, Australia. --Starionwolf 22:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor editing of dates

For your information: I correct the dates that are wikilinked to conform to the manual of style: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Date_formatting

I appologize for any inconvinience I may cause. --Starionwolf 05:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I finished editing the wikilinks fo the dates. --Starionwolf 17:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Double posted references

I have removed instances of the same bit of trivia that is repeated twice. ie Monty Python; Buzz Lightyear.--The Manator E 04:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I didn't see the repeated trivia. --Starionwolf 22:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Night vision?

Disney issued night vision goggles to prevent pirating of Finding Nemo[1], shouldn't this be included? --69.204.179.124 19:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Trivia Quote

  1. "Hop inside my mouth, if you want to live" is a reference to The Terminator, in which Kyle Reese says to Sarah Connor "come with me if you want to live" or more likely from the sequel Terminator 2: Judgment Day where Arnold Schwarzenegger delivers the line to Linda Hamilton, as he is seen as an enemy even though he wants to help.

These trivia bits don't really sound intentional. To me, it seems like coincidence. But I haven't seen the imitated film, so if someone knows better they can tell me.Hadoren 22:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

It's definitely a Terminator reference. -66.226.105.98 06:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Koo Koo Kachoo

In the Trivia section, it says that Crunch's fraze ". . .koo koo kachoo. . ." may come from a missinterpreted Beatles song line. But there's also the song by Simon and Garfunkel "Mrs. Robinson" which contains the line "Koo koo ka choo".

Anyway, I thought that speculation wasn't fitting for an encyclopedia. --ComposerWannabe 04:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Species

All of the other characters have exact species, yet Sheldon and his fathaer and Peach are labeled only as "sea horse" and "sea star" does anybody have a more definite labeling for them?

[edit] Pelicans

The Pelicans (Nigel and Gerald) can't be Brown Pelicans because they only live in North America[2]. Anyone know what species they are (or have good screenshots that a bird-knowlegeable Wikipedian could identify with)? --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 21:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Wouldnt they be Australian Pelicans? Definetly not a Brown Pelican Irokin 09:58, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Almost definitely. The range matches (obviously, considering the name). I can't remember what they look like in the movie, but I think that they were white with black patches on their lower body. --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Article?

What are anybody's thoughts on trying to improve this article to FA standard? Naturally, the first step would be a peer review, then we can work on it. It would be nice to emulate the success of the Final Fantasy articles and have several Pixar articles featured. RMS Oceanic

[edit] Good Article Instead

I think this would be would better for a good article, this just doesn't have the standards of an FA yet, but I think it's a great good article. Comments? •The RSJ• (Main Hub - Rants) 03:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

You're probably right. I've requested a peer review anyway, so we know how to improve it. Once we act on the recommendations, we can nominate it for GA. How does that sound? RMS Oceanic 06:08, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Yup, this is a definite good... good article, heh heh. Cheers! •The RSJ• (Main Hub - Rants) 23:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mr. Incredible picture isn't

I'm removing the trivia section that points out the picture of Mr. Incredible shown when Nigel first appears - later in the film, when the dentist scoops Nemo up into a plastic baggie and Nemo tries to escape but gets caught, the picture is shown close-up. The picture really shows the dentist receiving a golden trophy shaped like a tooth. --Dandaman32 02:25, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

(edit) I accidentally hit enter when I was editing the page :-] so my edit summary simply says "Removed" - oops. It should be "Removed trivia point regarding picture of Mr. Incredible in dentist's office" --Dandaman32 02:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goofs

The last goof mentioned claims that Marlin and Nemo live in The Great Barrier Reef which is actually in Australia, so they didn't have to swim far to find Nemo. However, swimming from the Great Barrier Reef (Queensland) to Sydney (New South Wales) would clearly be a very long journey for a fish - 58.107.100.71 07:40 - November 11, 2006

I'd like to go one step further and question the necessity of the goofs section all together. Is there really much point in highlighting minor inconsistencies in the logic and flow of a story concerning talking fish? I think this section should be deleted. RMS Oceanic 08:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Or maybe you could add another goof, pointing out that "fish don't talk." Of course, then some stickler for the rules would want a citation for that claim. >:( Wahkeenah 08:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Um, no, that'd be common knowledge. ;) Appropriate citations are part of what makes a Good Article - stuff that isn't common knowledge to all, or, in the case of Finding Nemo, only common knowledge to Australians, or Pixar staff, etc. Some of the stuff in the "Wider effects" section, for example, really does need proper citation - like the managing body for the Great Barrier Reef allowing much higher levels of collection of clownfish as a result of the movie. I don't recall anything being in the news about that at the time (and believe you me, it would have been an Issewe!), and a quick google only reveals that Vanuatu was selling clownfish. - Malkinann 11:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inaccuracies Section

I don't believe that "Male clownfish can change into females." is needed. The movie never mentions that Marlin ever tried to turn into a female, nor does it mention that he should've tried. The other ones (A whale's stomach is not connected to it's lungs, etc.) at least make sense and deal with the plot. The females one doesn't seem that pertinant. Hightower 40 23:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

OK. Dora Nichov 10:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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