Talk:Filipino martial arts
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I suggest examining this page for anything of value that is not in Eskrima (which is a synonym), merging those thing into Eskrima, and then ditching this page, with a redirect. Objections? Andrew 06:38, Apr 11, 2004 (UTC)
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- Can someone merge this page with Eskrima ? Filipino martial arts and Eskrima are one and the same, really. The difference is terminology.
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- I've expanded the article a bit to mention Silat as well. -Objectivist-C 02:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
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RE: Statement
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- "Filipino martial arts and Eskrima are one and the same, really. The difference is terminology."
"Filipino martial arts" refers to the indigenous Martial arts of the Phillipines and the Filipino culture. The various systems, tribes, Masters, Schools of thought etc... Most all have similarities and yet are different in may respects...
Example: "Karate" - Japanese Martial Arts Japanese Martial Arts: Shotokan, Aikido, jujitsu, Judo etc... Using the same line of thinking from above the following statement would be true: Japanese martial arts and "Karate" are the same, and all should be labeled under "Karate" even the Korean Systems...
"Karate" the term started in Okinawa and moved to Japan and then abroad. In summary, karate in Okinawa developed from the synthesis of two fighting techniques. The first one, used by the inhabitants of Okinawa, The second one, was a product of the ancient culture of China. aka - Kung Fu, Gung Fu etc...
Maybe we should label "Karate" under "Kung-Fu"?
[edit] Looping Links
Care needs to be taken not to loop your links - ie links pointing to the page they are on. Many of the FMA pages have Filipino Martial Arts - FMA: FilipinoMartialArts.com added to them which is just a directy goes to Filipino martial arts. What's the point.Peter Rehse 03:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rating
I've popped the article back down to Start class for a few reasons . If someone pops it back again to B I wont touch it but I do think the rating should reflect the article rather than pride in ones work. Please take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Martial_Arts/Assessment and note that the higher you go up the scale the more removed you should be from the work in question. If you are doing most of the edits a change form Stub to Start is ok, Start to B gets dicey and B to GA is a definate no no. It also helps to take a look and compare this article with. Escrima is definately a B-class and Chinese martial arts is a good example of a B-class article that Filipino martial arts, being a general martial art style article, could try to emulate. Basically if you remove the large number of lists with little information in their own right there is not much substance in this article. There is only one sources and you need to get rid of enbedded internal links. We need a few more picis showing martial arts. The map is good - but the article does not reference it. Which martial arts come from which islands for instance. The take home point is that there is so much good information that is missing - the article has great potential. A start class draws attention to that point. Hope this helps rather than hinders.Peter Rehse 06:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
