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Contents 1 Time to change? 2 Article rotation 3 Wikimovies 4 Article assessment 5 Film industry needs help! 6 A Wiki For Filmmaking 7 Fair use image

[edit] Time to change?

I see it's been since the start of September last year, that the selected article and selected picture were last changed (Or added, I believe). I don't mind changing them, but I thought I should get some consensus first, like what article should replace it? How it should be chosen? and should we use featured articles or selected articles?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Typhin (talk • contribs) 01:46, 6 January (ACST).

(Please sign your posts) Using the term "selected" is probably advisable. Wikipedia:Featured articles and Wikipedia:Featured pictures are perhaps the best place to turn when choosing, although you may also wish to look at Wikipedia:Good articles or other language versions of this portal (it's featured on Wikipédia française).--cj | talk 16:31, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

(Sorry, I usually sign my posts, just forgot this time, I'll try not to again!) I agree that selected would be better to avoid confusion, but, like the Cricket Portal (which is a featured portal), they use Featured Article, including only cricket related articles, that in the past have been Featured, there are also several previously featered Film related article which could be used. Sorry for any confusion. Anyway, thanks for your help! -Typhin 17:20, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

By all means, change the article (or if you won't I will), this portal's been rejected for long enough. I'll add an article rotation thing on the page later if no one objects. Also, if no one objects I'd like to remove the selected picture altogether from the page, since I don't think there are enough good pictures about films here that would fall under fair use for this purpose (featured pictures unsurprisingly has 0 pictures related to film). - Bobet 16:14, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

You could interpret "film" broadly and display photographs of people, places and things related to it. There should be enough images to rotate on a monthly basis, and if not, there's no harm in repeating after a given time. Of course, "selected picture" isn't a required element of a portal, but it is somewhat worthwhile.--cj | talk 09:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I added a picture rotation to the page too since it could be nice to have, I just hope it will get something besides pictures from public domain films before people get tired of them. If someone finds good pictures relating to films, please add them to the rotation (they'll all be in the form of "Portal:Film/Selected picture monthname year") or message me. - Bobet 19:44, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article rotation

Can we not put on some kind of article rotation as well? To display a new featured article every... say... week? That would be GOOD! - User:Gelo3 12:04, 26 January 2006 (ETA)

(I added a new section and edited the formatting on the previous comment). I already put a monthly rotation thing up, sorry for not mentioning that here. I don't think there are enough people using the portal to make weekly rotation very practical. There are currently selected articles for January and February, following the naming convention Portal:Film/Selected article January 2006 etc. (they and all the other subpages of the portal are at Category:Film portal)- Bobet 01:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Hmm.. ok if you think so... i personally would love it weekly but i guess you're right.. there aren't enough people visiting this portal to make that practical.... - Gelo3 01:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong, if you'd like to have a weekly rotation, I don't think anyone would try to stop you. You'd just have to find enough good articles about films and write the short summaries that appear on the main portal page. You can do that now, too, and add them for March or April if you want. Wikipedia:Featured articles has some good articles that you could put up if you don't know where to start looking. - Bobet 01:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimovies

Considering the vast topic of motion picture industry, I think it deserves a separate wiki altogether. This way Wikipedia could be an encyclopedia of general knowledge, and Wikimovies could tackle a more detailed view of films, filmmakers, studios, etc. This project could attract many wikipedians who want to specialize on cinema, like contributing synopsis of films and TV series episodes, artist biography and other interesting trivia. --84.188.182.171 01:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Or they could do the exact same thing here. There's already a Wikipedia:WikiProject Films with around 80 people on it, you'd have a hard time getting that many people to write for your site, notwithstanding the people who write articles about films that haven't put their names on the list. There's a list of film wikis in the Film industry article though if someone's interested. - Bobet 12:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article assessment

Wikipedia:Article assessment is currently accepting submissions for "1980s comedy films". Next week all the submissions will be assessed. Please consider adding a submission and helping with the assessments next week. violet/riga (t) 10:24, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Film industry needs help!

Film industry seems to have been mostly a duplicate of film which was expanded to the point of breaking. It heavily duplicates history of film and film crew (both of which I've added merge tags for, since there is some information that should be moved over). I did some cleanup, but much more is needed. Your help is appreciated. -Harmil 16:43, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Looks like someone made a complete mess of the page with this edit, pretty much taking the article Film and then cutting and pasting more things from the pages pointed to by the {{mainarticle}} template (the Film history, Film theory etc. pages). I'm going to ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films and if no one objects, I'll just revert it to this version, that's actually about film industry. - Bobet 17:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Wiki For Filmmaking

I apologize if this is somehow considered spamming or vandalism, but I thought this might be of interest to people who contribute to the Film Portal. If this should be deleted, by all means do so. I've created a filmmaking wiki, at http://wikifilmschool.com. My aim is not to duplicate the efforts of the Film Portal or any other project that seeks to catalogue films themselves (though, in truth, that may be an eventual effect if the project grows as large as I hope it will), but rather focus on the art and craft of how films and movies are actually made; cataloguing technique, terms, resources, and all knowledge that is related to how one would actually put together a motion picture. My goal is to cross the spectrum of filmmaking, from informing on the arcana of names and terms used in professional filmmaking that are only generally privy to professionals and people who have accumulated schooling and/or experience to cataloguing every possible way to achieve professional level results with as little money and as little "industry standard" equipment as conceivable. I hope some people will be interested in contributting, as Wikifilmschool could benefit from people with general wiki experience (formatting, templates, community building, etc.) as much as actual content. I intend to post this in a few other spots related to film, so I apologize in advance to anyone who comes across this message more than once. HamillianActor 19:49, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi HamillianActor, Wikipedia itself is also in need of more information on filmmaking: the article Filmmaking could be elaborated. The Film Portal itself I think could also refer more to film production instead of just film consumption. Your initiative could support Wikipedia and vice versa: there are multiple views on filmmaking. GL, Brz7 21:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, I certainly intend to add to Wikipedia, particularly on the topic of filmmaking. Of course, the enemy is time, and finding it among all other professional, personal, real-world, and internet based obligations. I was hoping to at least get http://wikifilmschool.com running on some small amount of steam before diving into Wikipedia as a whole. But I am well aware that being a more established Wikipedia contributer will lend my own independent project more credibility. Thank you for your advice and support. HamillianActor 16:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the deal is, but it seems that alot of the movie pages I look up don't have ratings on them. It would be more convient for me if each movie page including what rating the movie was given. thanks

[edit] Fair use image

I've removed the movie poster image in the selected article section, as it was a violation of Wikipedia's fair use policy. Please remember that fair use images can only be used in the article main spaces (the main page though is an exception).--TBCTaLk?!? 08:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)