User talk:Felsenst
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Hello there Felsenst, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page and experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our manual of style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Cheers! --maveric149
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[edit] Getting at older edits of Sewall Wright
Kind of wish the stuff in the old Sewall Wright page was accessible now (it has vanished) as I thought it read better. (Of course I wrote some of it). Joe Felsenstein
- Joe-- You can get the old Sewall Wright page edits if you know the IP address from which you made the edits. Go to the User Contributions for that IP, and there will be a list of your edits. Click on the Sewall G. Wright edits, and you'll have access to the text as it existed at that time. You can then cut and paste from there into the current article. Cheers, Greg Mayer. MayerG 08:32, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Your sig
Hi Joe, you need to sign your posts with four tildes please ~~~~ — Dunc|☺ 13:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] JBS Haldane
Dear Professor Felsenstein, if that image is not of him but of his father, you should perhaps suggest its removal on the talk page. Shyamal 04:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, changing the title was wicked of me, but effective -- the image is gone now. It was definitely his father, not him. The pipe-smoking image on the infobox that was recently there and is now on the talk page is an excellent one, and I hope that it becomes the image on the main page. I am glad that he is once again listed as British rather than Scottish, as that is more accurate. [[Felsenst 21:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)|Joe Felsenstein]]
[edit] Picture of you needed
Hello Professor Felsenstein,
Do you know the copyright status of the picture of you that is posted at http://www.gs.washington.edu/faculty/felsenstein.htm? It seems to me that it could be used in Wikipedia's article Joe_Felsenstein. Do you have the power to release it? Wikipedia is fussy about copyrights. If not, do you have a picture that you took yourself?
The page that is used to describe 'requests for permission' is at WP:ERP. Essentially the picture would have to be released under the Gnu Free Documentation License.
If you reply that it's OK, I'll try to upload the picture and include it in the article. Thanks, EdJohnston 20:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Ed Johnston --
Yes, that is a photo taken in 2005 by my wife in our backyard. I own it. I can if needed supply a higher-resolution version. However although I am happy to release it under the GFDL, I have no idea how to do so and cannot devote the hours needed to persuade the avid photo-deleters at the Wikipedia to stay their hand. Felsenst 21:12, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I think you've just uttered the magic words! Your verbatim response (as above) will be captured and saved by the Wikipedians in their archives as evidence of your consent. Let me know if that's the wording you'd like to use. It might be better not to say anything about the photo-deleters. I'll take care of filing the paperwork. EdJohnston 21:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Photo has been posted in the Joe Felsenstein article. The GFDL image is at Image:Felsenstein.jpg in commons.wikimedia.org. EdJohnston 02:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cladistics - adding to the word soup
Dear Professor, I hope you get working on the cladistics and related articles soon. The article suggests that phenetics is polythetic (overall) whereas cladistics is not. My belief was that phenetics differed in that it was strictly based on morphology. The word phyletic is nowhere used. Is it synonymous with phylogenetic. cheers Shyamal 01:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I am busy with other (non-Wikipedia) work right now -- in any case the whole miasma surrounding "cladistics" makes it difficult to even start. Is cladistics a method of classification? Or a method of inferring phylogenies? I think the former, but a lot of systematists disagree with me on that. You will find lots of people who say cladistics is simply inferring phylogenies by using neatly nested synapomorphies. If pressed they might later admit that it isn't quite that simple (homoplasy happens, and we don't usually know which state is ancestral). The classification is described as a phylogeny and vice versa. I think this is disastrous. It is not unique to Wikipedia, but this mess is common everywhere. BTW phenetics is not restricted to morphology. It is either (according to me) classification on the basis of overall similarity (not phylogeny) or (according to the majority of everyone else) a method of inferring phylogenies by using distance matrix methods -- and about half the time they include maximum likelihood as phenetic, and half the time not. (AARGH!) It's a total muddle reflecting muddled thinking. Phenetics is polythetic, but then phylogenetics is too if there is a reasonable amount of homoplasy. In saying cladistics isn't they are implicitly assuming that there is little homoplasy. They are using the Walt Disney version of cladistics, as people usually do in their teaching. You can make up data sets where not one derived state avoids homoplasy. Felsenst 04:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- I imagine that the Cladistics journal would have a definition and scope defined somewhere. Shyamal 08:10, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
