Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Rugby union

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[edit] Rugby union

I feel this article exemplifies the standards of wikipedia. It is extremely informative, well-linked, and non-biased. If an individual completely unaware of the sport of Rugby Union were to come across this page, I feel that they would leave with more than adequate knowledge to be able to watch a match and understand the principles of play. Rowlan 05:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• Object. This article needs some attention. It has a lot of content, which certainly is a big plus, but needs a lot of work before it can become an FA. First, it needs references and footnotes. Then, it needs some better organization, and consolidation of sections- many are simply too short, or contain too many short paragraphs. Also, the lead section is a bit lenghty, it can be trimmed. I recommend that the article be referred to Peer Review first. RyanGerbil10 05:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
• Object and refer to peer review. No references, large blocks of unlinked text, lead seems a little long, Image:Lineout from French wikipedia.jpg needs a better licensing tag. Pagrashtak 05:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
• Object. Even though I am doing some work on the article and suggested it for the collabortaion of the fortnight, it is not near the standard required. It is not stable at the moment and needs inline references. It should of been peer reviewed first. --Hamedog^Talk|@ 12:32, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
• Object. Lots of text is nice, but a lot of that needs sourcing. Also, it's still the Rugby union collaboration! It's still being worked on, so we should probably let that take its course, at the very least. The lead is also very dense, maybe move some of it off into the main article (see Wikipedia:Lead section)? Staxringold 00:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
• Object. Not ready. It is still being worked on as a COTF. The to do list on the talk page is still not all complete. Still needs work. Not even ready for a peer review in my opinion. Cvene64 03:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
• Object. Remember that a lot of people who use the English-language Wikipedia are Americans who most likely have never seen a rugby match. Try to put yourself in their shoes, turning on the international-sports channel and seeing a bunch of people seemingly running into each other aimlessly. Here are some specific things you should take note of:
  • You should include something about strategy in the article. If you get 5 points for a try and only 3 for a penalty or drop goal, why do teams ever kick penalty or drop goals? And why do they kick the ball out of bounds so much?
  • Is the 22-meter drop-out a drop kick? And who kicks the 22-meter drop out: the team that grounded the ball in the in-goal area or the team that kicked it there?
  • You say the opposition cannot touch the ball in a ruck, but it appears the team can heel the ball. Do you mean they can't touch it with their hands?
  • "Referees generally call scrums for knock-ons, where a player drops the ball forwards, a forward pass, or for other accidental infringements" -- does that mean that a knock-on is "when the player drops the ball forwards," or are those two different offenses? If the latter is the case, what's a knock-on?
  • Shouldn't the "sin bin" be mentioned?
  • You need to define what a scrum is, even though there is an article that gives more info on it.
  • Do rugby teams have set plays in which they plan who's going to pass the ball to whom and where, like in American football, or is it all spontaneous? -- Mwalcoff 01:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)