Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mauna Loa

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[edit] Mauna Loa

Earth's biggest volcano. I've more or less re-written this from scratch over the last couple of weeks and hope it is now good enough to be considered for featured status. Worldtraveller 22:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

• Support Very nicely done. Rlevse 12:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support Comprehenseive coverage, though some phrasing, such as "Hawaiian volcanism..." could be rephrased in a less technical way. -Fsotrain09 18:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support. Authoritive, nicely done. It could use some citations in the Observatories section. Bibliomaniac15 21:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
• Object Introduction is too short and the sentence structures vary too much. Also, 11 inlines aren't too many. Fishboy 05:03, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Three paragraphs is the norm per WP:MOS, is it not? -Fsotrain09 05:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your comment, Fishboy. I can't honestly see what else the lead needs, particularly now that ALoan has added a couple of sentences. I'm also very sure that 11 references is enough - unless you spotted facts that aren't cited? Worldtraveller 22:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support and welcome back Worldtraveller. Up to your usual standard. I have done a light copyedit, and added a couple of sentences to the lead. 11 footnoted reference (several used more than once) is just enough, neither too many nor too few (although there is an undersandable dependence on the HCV and HVO - perhaps some of the authoritative external links - USGS, MLSO, MLO, NOAA - are reference too?) The lead section is perfect - concise but packed with information introducing the topic. What more would Fishboy like to see mentioned? -- ALoan (Talk) 13:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks very much for the comment and copyedit! I did find myself relying on the HVO for a lot of references - I'll see if I can cite some of them to alternative sources, published papers and the like. Worldtraveller 22:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Object for now. Article needs a copyedit by someone unfamiliar with the text. I made some light copyediting mmyself but it needs a heavier dose. Also, references should be properly formatted, see {{Cite web}} and {{Cite book}}, and Wikipedia:Footnotes. Joelito (talk) 14:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • That is odd - you copyedited yesterday (18:38, 6 July 2006) and I had a further go today (13:45, 7 July 2006) - but I managed to support before you objected - see immediately above! Is it better yet? If not, what is wrong? Anyway, when did a specific style of footnote or citation format become required? -- ALoan (Talk) 14:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your copyedit, Joelr31. Could you give an example or two of what sort of thing needs work? Worldtraveller 22:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I have removed my copyedit concerns but please format the footnotes/references. Joelito (talk) 16:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose Comments –
  1. Age of rock < 200 Kyr (infobox) What is that supposed to mean: Kiloyear?
  2. On the southern flank of Mauna Loa lies Kilauea. Sentence ends abruptly. The entire first para needs to flow better.
  3. only one person has died due to volcanic activity – could the exact cause of death be mentioned?
  4. 0.25-0.5 km³ is not the SI unit. Use cubic metres instead.
  5. The location of Mauna Loa in Hawai would be vey helpful
  6. Flora on the mountain slopes? Does it snow on the mountain? (From the pics it looks like it does)
  7. The article uses the metric system as first preference, but in the infobox it is the reverse. Please edit the infobox to maintain consistency.
  8. "S Wave" --> "S-Wave"

=Nichalp «Talk»= 18:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• • Thanks for comments - I am in Denmark at the moment and don't have time to address these just yet. Back on Monday and will do them then. Worldtraveller 08:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I have dealt with a few of these (created kyr, copyedited the Kilauea paragraph, infobox and s-wave - although objecting about a redirect seems a bit excessive). I would leave in 75,000 km³ as it is a bit more approachable than 7.5×10¹³ m³ - think of 75 cubes, each 10km on a side! I can't find a decent map of the Island of Hawaii, but most of the southern half is Mauna Loa. See Image:Hawaii national parks map.gif, which is not ideal. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I've always learnt it as an "S-Wave", so for a scientific article gunning for FA to err is a little odd. As for the object, I've noticed that sometimes if I just leave just it as comments, nothing is done to address my concerns; therefore the late object. Can this be useful for the maps: Commons:Category:Maps of Hawaii? =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
        • Quick comment re: map - there's a graphic in the 'relationship with Kilauea' section - does that not suffice? I'll see if I can add a map if not. Will do other comments tomorrow. Worldtraveller 01:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
        • Re: SI units, using km³ is surely as acceptable as using km for linear measurements. It keeps the numbers manageable and is standard in volcanology. I've added the cause of the one volcanic death, and am justing adding a bit about flora and climate. Worldtraveller 12:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment There appears to be a contradiction in the text regarding the estimated date of the earliest eruptions of the volcano. The Introduction states: "The volcano has probably been erupting for about 700,000 years." Whereas Eruption History - Origins states: "Mauna Loa probably began erupting about 100,000 years ago, and has grown steadily since then." Both statements are unreferenced. Is there a source to refer to on this point? --Jazriel 11:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Good spot. The infobox says <200kyr, so I assume 100,000 is correct and 700,000 was a typo? -- ALoan (Talk) 12:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I certainly got the 700,000 figure from somewhere. I think there is a) some uncertainty about whether a given age refers to the start of eruptions or the emergence of the mountain above the sea, and b) a large amount of uncertainty inherent in the estimate either way. I'll find some sources to flesh this point out. Worldtraveller 12:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support as long as someone fixes this. —Keenan Pepper 04:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks - that's done now. Worldtraveller 12:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)