Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/De Lorean DMC-12

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[edit] De Lorean DMC-12

By far my favorite car of all time, and it deserves featured article status. I worked on cleaning it up (turning lists into prose, language, etc) and I think it is well referenced (has inline citations in footnote form too). It went through peer review as well. — Wackymacs 08:07, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

• Support: Informative. Almost comprehensive. It would be good to have some quantitative sales figures, if at all possible. deeptrivia (talk) 15:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
• Support. Can you see if you can stop the text jamming up against the info box at the start? Please see my inline comments throughout. Present and past tense may need to be checked throughout for consistency. Tony 15:43, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

• Object:Support
  1. The image Image:DMC publicity photo.jpg is tagged as "fair use", but is used for decorative purposes only. It should be removed.
  2. The image Image:DMC12-interior.jpg is tagged as "fair use". It's quite possible for a Wikipedian to make a free-license replacement, so there's no reason to use a fair-use image here.
  3. In the description of the engine, "Gas mileage was said to be 19 mpg". Is this street mileage, highway mileage, or closed-circuit mileage at the car's most efficient speed?
  4. The "suspension", "Production changes", and "Pricing" sections need wikilinks to appropriate articles.
  5. It would be nice to have an exterior photo of the car with the doors closed.

  --Carnildo 22:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

• I've fixed all your objections except for point 3 (which I don't believe can be used as an objection, rather a suggestion/comment). Thanks for pointing the things out that you did. — Wackymacs 10:28, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

• Looks good. Thanks for the picture -- everyone wants to show off the gull-wing doors of the De Lorean, so even though there are five of them that show up for a local parade each year, and the staging area for those cars is right in front of my apartment, I've never seen a De Lorean with the doors closed. --Carnildo

• Support, as much information as I could want on the subject. Andrew Levine 02:15, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

• Support: Informative article, maybe a little too detailed in places (but it's about a car, so you need the detail). The sentence 'At least three DMC-12s were used in various adult pornography films parodying the Back to the Future trilogy' intruiged me. Maybe you can give an example title of one of those movies. If the images are cleared for fair use, I'd give this a go. -- Cugel 10:27, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

• Support: well-referenced and comprehensive. Who could want to know more? Batmanand 11:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

• Mild objectMild support: Great pictures; lousy captions. Expand and add periods. Also resolve the issues on the talk page "pending taks" template. Perhaps you could elaborate on the popular culture; mention Back to the Future more than once. Great start; fix it up a little as I've mentioned and then I'll support. --HereToHelp (talk) 17:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • I have fixed the image captions. I've also added a mention of the Europe/UK models which had the right-hand drive. I don't see any reason to mention Back to The Future any more, its already mentioned in the lead and in the popular culture section with enough information. The pending tasks on the Talk page were made back in January 2005, from looking around I can't see much more information that can be suitably added to the existing article, so the pending tasks are redundant. — Wackymacs 18:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks okay now. Chaged my vote above to a mild support. I'm still not crazy about the article...but okay, sure, let's have it be featured. Part of it is that this topic is narrower than some other FAs, Evolution is a good example, so it won't be so long and have as much data. But this looks good enough.--HereToHelp (talk) 19:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

• Support Great Scott... igordebraga [[User talk:Igordebraga|*]] 16:37, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
• Minor Object - How many times is it really necessary within the introduction and first two sections to beat it into us that Giorgetto Giugiaro designed the thing? :) Also, down in the "Special DMC-12s" section, can the sentence: "leaving the driver stranded on the road at night this happened to De Lorean owner Johnny Carson." not only be fixed but, if possible, referenced? You MAY also want to mention that DeLorean offered a job to Andrew Probert after seeing the modified DMC-12 designs for Back to the Future, but that Probert declined and eventually wound up working on Star Trek: The Next Generation (and a drawing that Probert did as a lark of a futuristic looking Enterprise became the concept drawing that led to the final design of the Enterprise-D, but that probably belongs in his article, not this one :).

• Okay, prose is better, but what about the references for statements like the one about Johnny Carson? Skip the Probert trivia item, it's not that relevant, though it was interesting (it's on the BTTF DVD set if I remember correctly). --JohnDBuell 12:44, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

• Support If all minor but cool subjects on wikipedia had this great of coverage, well we'd be set :) - JustinWick 03:20, 14 December 2005 (UTC)