Talk:Fear Factory
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[edit] Meshuggah reference removed
Removed the Meshuggah reference in "Categorization and Sound", since such a comparison is selective and mostly irrelevant to the subtopic. -Danteferno
[edit] Dynamo Open Air Festival?
Is this original work? What is the the Dynamo Open Air Festival? - Zoe
Hello Zoe. This is an original entry with facts gathered from around the web. cf http://www.dynamo.nl/ Birchtree
- We still need at least a link to an article in the Wikipedia about the Dynamo Open Air Festival, or that sentence makes no sense in this article. -- Zoe
Agreed. Would you care to do so? Birchtree
- Since I have no idea what it is, no. -- Zoe
The internet is very informative though, Zoe. You could investigate it, beginning with the link provided, if you like. Birchtree
I'm impressed, Birchtree! Never heard of the band, but it looks like a good article... However, I removed the phrase "with his mouth", considering it redundant. ;) And I've removed some of your HTML markup. Have a look at the code as it is now, and witness the power of wiki markup! :) Zoe - I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the sentence mentioning the Dynamo Open Air Festival not making sense. Presumably it's a music festival that took place in the open air. Surely that's enough to get some idea of what's being discussed...? -- Oliver P. 11:38 Mar 3, 2003 (UTC)
Damn. I quite enjoyed the 'with his mouth' bit, but fair do's. ;) Ta for rediting. ...You're quite right about Zoe's comment btw; it is a touch over-zealous to claim that merely because there is no entry for the festival the entire sentence doesn't make sense! A very strange claim. What's more, I felt the opening question of 'Is this original work?' was a touch patronizing and rude.
Still, I'll change the festival to a wiki link and leave it at that. Perhaps someone will wish to add the entry.
- No, no, Birchtree. It's just that we're not used to newbies turning up and suddenly writing brilliant prose round here. :) It is entirely understandable for people to be suspicious when it happens, and so I defend Zoe's opening question above. In fact, if someone suspects your writing of having been written by a professional journalist, you should take it as a compliment! Copyright infringements could harm the Wikipedia project, so it is essential for at least some of us to remain vigilant in this area. Zoe is a respected contributor around here, and so I think we should be more careful in future not to wind her up. -- Oliver P. 03:37 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
Point taken, though there are simple ways and means of enquring as to the legitimacy of an article that don't risk getting the author's back up. Being so blunt is hardly any way to go on, 'respected contributor' or not. Birchtree 04:56 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
Oliver, Dynamo Open Air Festival has no definition in the Wikipedia and no link to an outside source. There is no explanation as to why this is important or even worth mentioning. And I have no intention of writing an article about it. -- Zoe
- Just to clarify, it was Birchtree, not me, who suggested that you might want to write an article on the festival.
- The Wikipedia is still a young project, and there is still a lot that hasn't been covered; we can't do it all at once. Not everything that is mentioned in passing in an article can be expected to have an article of its own just yet. One of the great things about the Wikipedia is the way in which it continually invites growth. When someone thinks that something may require an article of its own, they can put in a link. If it comes up red, that is an invitation to add new content, which I think is a good thing. The responsibility of writing that new content does not rest solely with the person who originally mentions the concept, since this is a collaborative project. It may be expected that the person who first mentions something may have something more to say on the subject, but to expect them to write a whole article on something that is only mentioned in passing in one of their articles is a bit much. People have other things to do. I'm sure you can see that mentioning music festivals is an entirely natural thing to do in an article about a band, so I'm still a little baffled about why you are querying it. I think the sentence in question is illuminating, in that it suggests that the band's dedication to the production of new music outweighed their desire for public appearance. To better understand the sentence, is there anything that you need to know about the festival, other than the fact that it is an open-air music festival? If you have a specific query about the nature of the festival whose answer would help you to understand the sentence better, please ask it, and maybe someone will be able to find the answer. So far, all I can make out from your comments is that you personally haven't heard of the festival in question. I understand that not knowing things can sometimes be irritating, but there is much missing content from the Wikipedia, and I think that's inevitable at this stage. -- Oliver P. 03:37 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
Hello to you. I've taken time out of a busy schedule to write up the D.O.A. festival. I hope this resolves the apparent rising tension here. :) --Birchtree
- Phew! Well done. Maybe my time would have been better spent if I'd done the same, rather than composing that long-winded message above! -- Oliver P. 04:19 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
Sometimes it's just better to rise above it, Oliver. I entirely agree with your point though, and considered making the same. --Birchtree
[edit] Fear is the Mindkiller, single or EP?
Fear is the Mindkiller single? Sure someone isn't just getting confused with the EP? There's so much song as "Fear is the Mindkiller".. --Lx
[edit] What is 'cyber-fast production'?
What, exactly, is 'cyber-fast production'? -CamTarn
[edit] Discography
In line with other music pages, I'm planning on moving the discography to another page, if that's OK. Same format and content, just a page of its own linked by a "See also". I'll do it when I get a chance over the next few days. This saves repetition and possible edit errors on information spread over several pages - many bands have individual member pages containing the discography repeated. IainP (talk) 16:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Liquid 8
There are signed to Calvin Records.
~ Luke 'Self Biased Resistor' May.
[edit] Ulceration
Every reference I've ever read has cited Halloween 1990 as the exact day Fear Factory formed. In fact when the band was recording Digimortal, they celebrated their 10th anniversary on Halloween night with an in-studio party. It seems more likely that Ulceration is a band Ray and Dino were in before Fear Factory, and that FF proper began when Burt and Andrew joined. (James Hetfield was in a band called Phantom Lord in 1980, but you can't really say that Metallica formed in 1980 and were at first known as Phantom Lord.)
Anyone have any other sources on this? Wangoed 13:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please restore what my filtered computer deletes
Please restore the link my filtered computer truncates. Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience, Randroide 16:58, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Death Metal?
Er, yeah, so how is FF Death metal...
Listen to Concrete and Soul of a New Machine. They started as a death metal band but changed into groove metal on Demanufacture. Markendust
[edit] POV
a certain refrence to metal as the most bitter genre of music and a mention of how the drummer is able to duplicate the sound on the cd in real live is a testament to his technique seems a little POV to me
[edit] archetype
what the hell happened to the archetype article? its a fear factory album and there for should have an article
