Talk:Fasces

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Blessed, or injured? (blessé = injured in French) -phma

I am not sure about the triumph thing -- Davidme

[edit] Cincinnatus

I've added the image of Cincinnatus, but I'm not sure if it is too much for the page -- some people don't like multiple pictures in a small article. I thought it was a good illustration of the object; what do you think? Rdikeman 23:02, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cincinnatus is important.

I think the inclusion of Cincinnatus is important. What about including a link to or information about the Society of the Cincinnati ?

Some text about the occasion in Cincinnatus' career and the significance of the portrayed gesture is essential. Anyone want to give this a paragraph? The connection between Roman Cincinnatus and the Society of the Cincinnati should be explained at Society of the Cincinnati, but not here at Fasces: too peripheral. --Wetman 18:34, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Two superfluous images

Two fasces on either side of the Flag of the United States and the Speaker of the House of Representatives in the United States House of Representatives represent the power of the lower house and the country

The fasces appears on the state seal of Colorado, USA. It is beneath the All-seeing eye and above the mountains and mines.

In trying to format this article, I moved these two images here, at the risk of offending some US patriots. The fasces in them are almost impossible to see and they add no additional information. When there's more text, these could find space again, perhaps. --Wetman 06:08, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Offense be damned. The one on the seal of Colorado is quite visible. Alphax ^τεχ 06:06, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

The "Mercury Dime" one is silly. Alphax ^τεχ 23:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Fasces on the reverse of a US "Mercury" dime ((1916– 1945)

The colorado seal one is visible, the US House is visible enough but less so. They should be added in that order as the article is expanded. Thanks for moving them here instead of deleting them. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 20:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Someone removed the Lincoln Statue... [ælfəks] 11:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] French Coat of Arms

Just a question: there is a fasces in the French Coat of Arms? Look! --Nkcs 04:59, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

A fasces in the French Coat of Arms?

[edit] Alternative Fasces

I remember seeing an illustration of a fasces used as a papal symbol. It was from a book on the history of Christianity, whose name I have forgotten, but it was part of a frieze. The interesting this about this fasces was that it used a candle in place of an axe... Anyone know anything else about this?

[edit] List of Symbols Containing the Fasces

In the interest of keeping the main un-cluttered would it be a good idea to make a seperate article called "List of Symbols Containing Fasces"? I think it would be immensely helpful for resaerchers of symbolism to have a list of images containing the fascses (or any symbol for that matter), as a reference and also to be able to compare and contrast different usages. 24.18.35.120 01:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification

Could you clarify this sentence?

"The following cases all involve the adoption of the fasces as a symbol or icon; no actual physical re-introduction as a (highly symbolic) implement."

I understand the first part-- the examples given involve the adoption of the fasces as a symbol-- however I don't understand the second part. Maybe the sentence could be clarified by someone who ascertains the intended meaning? Thanks. --24.18.35.120 01:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, I read the whole article and now it makes more sense. I take it the meaning is that although the symbol has been used in modern times, modern organizations have not physically re-introduced actual axes bundled in sticks. So, I changed the sentence to read "The following cases all involve the adoption of the fasces as a symbol or icon; no actual physical re-introduction has occured." It was the "as a (highly symbolic) implement" part that I didn't understand. --24.18.35.120 02:07, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] United States Senate

Where on this seal is a fasces? The article states a pair of fasces is on the Seal of the United States Senate. Arx Fortis 19:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)