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[edit] Prijepolje coat of arms deleted ?

Why ? I don't get it...

Bx228 00:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Template [hide] function

Hi Fang Ali,

If you haven't gotten a response, you may wish to ask someone in Category:User template coder. I can recommend User:CBDunkerson. Λυδαcιτγ 02:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding former article, "P-P-P-Powerbook"

As the closer of P-P-P-Powerbook's second nomination for deletion, I thought you might be interested in the deletion review of the fourth nomination, wherein the no consensus result was singlehandedly overturned to delete by another user the next day. --Czj 08:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MKA

Please take a look Talk:Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Regards. MustTC 18:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Howdy

Hi Firsfron. I saw that you're editing and figured I'd say hi. How goes? Good job being #269 by # of edits. I saw myself in the 500s and was amazed--I thought there'd be way more people with more edits than me. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving! --Fang Aili talk 17:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey Fang Aili! All goes well; just reverting vandalism to Stegosaurus; whenever we get a really nice, featured dinosaur article on the main page, it gets completely vandalised by IPs. :( Yes, I was surprised I was so high on the list. Congrats on #545, that's really cool, too! :) My Thanksgiving was really good; ate with the family, and then a few hours later, ate with some friends. So I was really stuffed! What's new over in your neck of the woods? Probably heavy snow and...? How was your Turkey Day? Firsfron of Ronchester 17:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Good luck with the Dunav project! You know, even though Wikipedia has 1.5 million articles, there are big gaps in a lot of areas; it's always surprising to find something missing. I don't pretend to know anything about folk dance, but it doesn't surprise me. People are busy creating articles about [insert pop star]'s latest concert or whatever. So I applaud your efforts. No snow in the UP in late November? Gotta be global warming... Firsfron of Ronchester 18:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stegosaurus

你好﹗Thank you for also watching out at the Stegosaurus article - I can't finish counting the number of times I clicked on the featured article, only to see a bunch of nonsensical gibberish... Plus sometimes the bots revert vandalism to a different version of vandalism instead. –- kungming·2 (Talk) 19:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mexican Folkloric Ballet

good work with your recent changes. ciao Dogru144 23:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] We Are Smarter Than Me

I wrote a stub on We Are Smarter Than Me after hearing it described on NPR. If Copy-vio is not an issue, might it make sense to undelete the deleted revisions so those viewing them in the history could consider using some of the language, or perhaps finding leads for research directed at fleshing out the stub?
--Jerzy•t 23:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Tnx!
--Jerzy•t 14:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Dance

Hi Erica, I left this message on WikiProject Dance's talkpage too, but I thought I might drop you a line seeing as you're active. I was wondering whether you guys needed help with cheering up the portal, it looks a little unloved lately! Rfrisbie has been doing some great things over at Dogs, Cats, Education and Psychology, and has been helping me improve Chemistry, and I'm starting to get hopelessly addicted to portals. Let me know if Portal:Dance will be my next fix :) Cheers, riana_dzasta 08:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Eeek, sorry, didn't notice your post on Rfrisbie's talk page. I'll keep the discussion there. Cheers, riana_dzasta 15:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
That's OK! Since you're about, I may as well ask you now - does the portal have more of a classical Western focus, and do you want to keep it that way? riana_dzasta 15:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Fang Aili. I'm about out of layout ideas for the portal. After a little more content gets added to the rotated selections, I think it has a real good shot at making featured portal status. When it's ready, I nominate you to take the lead on that. Please let me know if I can be of any other assistance. :-) Rfrisbietalk 20:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taking you up on your offer

You were the user who first welcomed me (I was Qball6 then) to WP way back when - thanks for that, by the way. I know it was a template message, but you said I could ask you questions , and, six months later, I am taking you up on that offer :).

I ran across this article -> Lumas and figured that it was not an appropriate subject for an article (maybe a mention on the band page, at best). I vacillated between a speedy delete tag and a prod tag before, perhaps wrongly, settling on a prod tag. The prod was not acted on within 5 days, so an anon removed the tag saying the 5 days had elapsed. I think that is innappropriate by the anon, but I am not certain what the correct next step is. My inclination is to revert the removal of the prod tag. However, for my wikieducation, I would like to ask your thoughts as to whether: (1) you agree that the article should be deleted; (2) I should have used a speedy template; and (3) the best move at this point is to revert the deletion of the prod. Your thoughts greatly appreciated. -Kubigula (ave) 15:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

Hey, I read on the Admin Coaching page that you're taking up a new coachee? Is that position filled yet? I currently lack a coach...er, if that is the correct term. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 15:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

You're it! :) Why don't you start an admin coaching subpage and then we'll get started. Cheers, Fang Aili talk 15:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks much! The page has been created as requested. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 16:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] dont delete

I am new but the article is about a nice dancer. i am new to wikipedia. so give me some time to add copywrite info etc —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Webmediaconsultant (talk • contribs).

[edit] Disco article

I noticed that you added Disco to WikiProject Dance. I took a look at the article, and it appears to be about the music, not the dance. There are a few music articles that discuss the corresponding dance as well, but most major dance styles get a separate article. In particular, the disco article is already too big, so I doubt that it has room to add information about the dance. Maybe we can start a separate article for that. What do you think?

By the way, thanks for all that you're doing for the Dance WikiProject. It hasn't been very active for a while, and I'm glad to see some more work being done to it. —Cswrye 15:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I did some looking around, and I think that the hustle is the dance that accompanies disco music, which would essentially make it the same as disco dancing. I'm not exactly an expert on disco though. —Cswrye 20:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] john fisher

my test? sorry i dont get it... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.155.5.28 (talk • contribs).

[edit] singing bowl post

Thanks for your message. I am once again changing the singing bowl post. The version you keep reverting to is something that recently appeared and is very innacurate and misleading. I'm replacing the text with text that was collaborated on Wikipedia several months ago by 3 of the world's leading experts on the topic. This text has been on wikipedia for several months and is reliable and factual.

The post you continually revert back to is something new - written by some person in Australia that really doesn't know what they are talking about. His text is completely false - the lines are not water lines, the bowls don't spout water, they are not used for trance induction, etc. His text changes several reliable facts from the long standing versino and adds many misleading points of false information.

I appreciate you are making a great contribution to Wikipedia. However, in this case, you are replacing an expert posting with the ramblings of a questionable mind. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.2.161.89 (talk • contribs).

[edit] 16k!

16k! Have some turquoise! Wikipedia's article on Anniversaries doesn't have anything for 16, but 17 is turquoise, so here you go! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 22:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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16k! Have some turquoise! Wikipedia's article on Anniversaries doesn't have anything for 16, but 17 is turquoise, so here you go! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 22:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, that wasn't intended to be a "hint", you know! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 01:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Also, if you wear all that turquoise at once, you will look just like my old landlady! ;) Firsfron of Ronchester 02:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hi, Fang. Thank you for reverting vandalism in my user page.

Happy editing!

--Meno25 04:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You're welcome

(following on Mexican Folkloric Ballet comment: you're welcome.) And congratulations on becoming an administrator.Dogru144 16:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help Moving Article

I need help moving the article Virtual Console (Wii) to the title Virtual Console, because Virtual console is the Linux thing. There's already a disambiguation link at Virtual Console (Wii), but I can't move it to Virtual Console because its a redirect to Virtual console. And if I cut and paste, I'll screw up Virtual Console (Wii)'s edit history. Help.TheListUpdater 17:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB and talk page tagging

I saw that you're using AWB to tag pages for wikiprojects--I want to do that too, but I can't seem to get AWB to work right. It skips any redlinked talk page (which eliminates most of the tagging). I have the "skip non-existing pages" box unchecked, so.. I don't know what else there is to do. Grr. --Fang Aili talk 15:34, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Fang Aili! Well, I don't know if this will help, but here is what I do:
1. I start by making a list in AWB. For example, I've been tagging bird pages, so I started by creating a list in AWB: "Links on page", then "List of North American birds". Then I save that list "Save" as a text file. AWB automatically saves the text file with the list in wikiformat!
2. I edit the txt file, using the "replace" function to replace all instances of "# [[" with "# [[talk:", which gives me a list of just talk pages. I save that list onto one of my subpages, such as user:Firsfron/birds. I then have a list of purely talk pages to work off of.
3. I clear out the old list on AWB, and then "Links on page" user:Firsfron/birds. I now have an AWB list of just talk pages.
4. As you already know, on the first tab, uncheck "skip non-existing talk pages".
5. Also on the first tab, I set "skip if contains:" "birdtalk" (without quotes), so that it will skip pages which already have the talk template (there is more than one bird talk template, but they both contain the word "birdtalk", so this will catch both templates).
6. On the second tab, I set the page to "Prepend", with the desired tag, and uncheck the "automatically fix" thing or whatever it is, as I'm not there to clean up, just to tag.
7. On the last tab, I use an edit summary such as "Tagging for Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds", and on the bar on the top of AWB, I check "mark all edits as minor". Then I hit "start the process"!
8. I try to watch out for pages where both the talk page and the article page don't exist. This only happens when there are red items on the original list, so if your list is all blue, you don't have to worry about it. If neither the talk page nor the article page exist, you will see them show up red briefly when the page is loading, and can hit "ignore". Also, beware of tagging pages that don't have anything to do with the subject. A little common sense is all that's needed here, obviously.
This is the process I use, and I really like it. I can tag a lot of pages very quickly and easily. If this doesn't work for you, I would be very surprised. You are using the latest AWB, yes? Let me know if you still aren't getting it to work, and I'll see what else might be wrong. Best wishes, Firsfron of Ronchester 17:54, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Singing bowls

B9 hummingbird hovering 06:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC) re: Singing bowls... conduct a current literature review in peer review literature before you make rash judgements. Your understanding of "trance" is limited and your assertions false. Read the literature. I appreciate your views on the trance induction and I will ensure in the future that when i reintroduce the information about trance induction that it is water tight. Your ignorance on traditional fountain bowls shows how cursory your understanding of the subject matter is. B9 hummingbird hovering 06:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: your Moon Landing message

Well thank you, that's very nice of you! Do you ever use the IRC channel #vandalism-en-wp? It would certainly be nice to have some more admins in there. Likewise, let me know if you need me to do anything, too. Peace, delldot | talk 14:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Previous Move Request

I'm just going to move Virtual Console from redirecting from Virtual console to Virtual Console (Wii). Thanks anyways.TheListUpdater 23:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coaching?

Hi Erica...we've talked on a number of issues in the past, and I've seen you quite involved in pre-admin coaching. Now that I'm past 6K edits, I'm looking towards eventual adminship, and put my name on the coaching application list. If you get an opening, I would appreciate you considering me. Thanks! Akradecki 00:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the opportunity to throw questions at you, so I'll start with this: it seems to me that one of the most critical aspect of being an admin is to keep calm when others are upset and ranting. At various times in the past, I've had to deal with folks mad about one thing or another, and I've tried to keep a balanced head, avoid personal attacks, and focus on policy. If/when I become an admin, I would expect others, both admins and editors, to hold me accountable for the tone I took in my responses, even when provoked. As an exercise in this, if you have time, would you mind looking at my response to an item on my talk page with the header "WTF?"? I had tagged a new article on a store that appeared to be unsourced spam with a CSD tag. The guy who wrote it, who happens to be an admin, became deeply offended, and his response, in my opinion, borders on a personal attack. I really don't care about that aspect of it, I have thick skin. What I have tried to focus on is the policy itself, and addressing behavior befitting an admin. My question to you, then, is (and please be blunt with me), have I effectively accomplished this, have I justified my actions on policy alone, and have I addressed a legitimate behavior issue without being personal about it? Thanks for your input! Akradecki 19:34, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Tuas Bus Terminal

Hi Erica, Tuas Bus Terminal is a place that I don't know of. I only know that is a bus terminal in Singapore and it serves the people who work in the industrial estate nearby. There's nothing else about this bus terminal really. I would love to add some information about the place. I've never been to the bus terminal before, as it's in a very remote area. As far as I know, is just a small bus terminal that is just a small terminus for buses. It's nothing more than a rest stop and a bus park. I can't picture this place out. It's too small and non-notable a place to cover this bus terminal. Terence Ong 05:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi. Thank you very much for your comments. I will see how my RfA does now until it runs out on the 9th. If it does fail, I will run again within the next couple of months. Your help and kind comments are very much appreciated. Wikiwoohoo 18:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your input is requested

Your input would be appreciated at this Request for Comments. Kelly Martin (talk) 19:34, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] National dances?

I saw the edit to your user page and created this. Not much, but it's something to start with. *shrugs* --Brad Beattie (talk) 15:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Very cool. Where'd you get the info? I'm offline for the next few hours. --Fang Aili talk 17:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Many google searches for the term "the national dance of". --Brad Beattie (talk) 00:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Cool.. I will have to work on that soon.
BTW, do you mind if I move some of your images to Commons? --Fang Aili talk 15:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

How about I move all of them? Gimme half an hour here. :) Actually, it's gonna take a while for me to do that. Probably longer than 30 minutes. Considering I have to head to bed soon, go nuts with what you want to move. It's all good. --Brad Beattie (talk) 16:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tapan

Hi, Fang Aili! I'm glad you like my additions to the tapan page. Unfortunately, most of it came from a section about tapan which was on the davul page (and so was already not sourced). I felt it was incorrectly placed and needed to be on the specific ethnic instrument page for tapan, which already existed, though it had only a brief bit on it.

I did rewrite the material, as it had been submitted by a non-native English speaker (by IP address, no user profile available). I can corroborate the information on the page because I am a drummer and study different ethnic drums, but I don't have any sources for it other than one LP with a photo and a few MP3s. If it makes any difference, a college professor introduced this music to me years ago and told me the general method of playing.

Unfortunately, there is not a great deal of information available about this interesting drum and its associated music. I'll continue to work on it in the future to try to fill in the gaps, but for now, I guess it's going to just be a starting point. Thanks! Swellbow 21:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Cause marketing?

I wanted to see what the reason is for deleting the "cause marketing" topic. It's not my article - I followed a link in. I just created an account and this is my first time posting, so please forgive any errors in protocol. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Uberveritas (talk • contribs) 05:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Deleted picture

Image: PictureofZardiw was deleted. Why? It's a picture of me, and is hardly a copyright infringement..........lololl......Please restore it.......or contact me: presidentATSIGNGOESHERElighthouse57.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zardiw (talk • contribs).

[edit] RE: Admin coaching

Sounds good to me. -- Steel 17:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Admin Coaching

Yeah, I can take a few students under my wing if you want. Nishkid64 18:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


  • Hi Fang, since this is related to the current header I won't start a new one. I recently added my name to the project talkpage because I wasn't sure the mainpage was active now or not. I am approaching 5,000 edits and I've participated in most aspects of WP from writing small articles and cooperating in larger projects, to RC Patrol and some participation at WP:ANI. Since I got a 3RR block in November (which has a fairly innocous explanation) I won't actually be eligible for an RfA for awhile, but I'm still very interested in working with a coach to further my education. Let me know if I need to list myself on the mainpage instead, but otherwise I'll patiently await my turn for an admin. Thanks, Doc Tropics 20:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Re:Admin coaching

Correct. I haven't a student, but I want one. --Gray PorpoiseYour wish is my command! 20:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

I've taken the liberty of updating your admin coaching status. Bummer that Exir is blocked. Let me know if you'd like a new student, or you could try to figure out if someone here still needs one. --Fang Aili talk 23:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Fang Aili,
Thanks for your note. It is definitely a "bummer" that Exir is unable to edit, through no fault of his own. But I guess that's communism for you. I had intended to wait for Exir, hoping the block would be brief, but it seems it will not be. Therefore, since it appears you're now the one dishing out the trainees, feel free to send another student my way. Best, Firsfron of Ronchester 23:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Gah! That list is a mess! Will I appear lazy if I say I don't want to sift thru that mess to find an unfulfilled coaching request? ;) Thanks for volunteering to take on the responsibility for maintaining this project. Firsfron of Ronchester 23:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Yup, I'm in - I'm on "wikibreak" per se, but I don't want to miss this. Lemme know what's next - will contact DocTropics. Rama's arrow 00:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Rama contacted me, and I'm happy to have such an experienced coach. Thanks to both of you; you're doing great things : ) Doc Tropics 01:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  • As for me, I don't know. He hasn't replied for a while, and it seems he comes and goes for a month or so. Would you want to give him another chance before pairing me up with someone else? Titoxd(?!?) 02:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Admin coaching

I've posted a reply to your message on my talk page.  The Transhumanist   01:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I've replied to your reply - I've updated the status of the entries to the best of my knowledge.  The Transhumanist   03:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I note that you put a "last warning" tag on User:66.199.211.3. He made some obscene edits to British Virgin Islands which I have reverted. I am not sure if you are an admin, but it seems to me that this guy has probably earned himself a temporary block by now. Legis (talk - contributions) 17:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

yah im still very interested in becoming an administrator, any help finding a coach will be much appreciated thanks--Fabio 20:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for voting

Thank you for voting in my RfA which at 51/20/6 unfortunately did not achieve consensus. In closing the nomination, Essjay remarked that it was one of the better discussed RfAs seen recently and I would like to thank you and all others who chose to vote for making it as such. It was extremely humbling to see the large number of support votes, and the number of oppose votes and comments will help me to become stronger. I hope to run again for adminship soon. Thank you all once more. Wikiwoohoo 20:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

Since the project is being redesigned to run itself (that's a good thing, which I wholeheartedly support), it doesn't need two coordinators. Therefore I've reverted the addition of my name to the instructions on the main page.  The Transhumanist   22:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


By the way, if a coachee stops participating, how long should the coach wait before the coachee can be considered inactive and the coaching assignment concluded?  The Transhumanist   22:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Admin coaching

Hello. I see from the admin coaching status page that you (along with The Gerg, who is retired) were coaching User:SP-KP. Did that ever get off the ground? If you're not actively coaching someone, would you like a new student? Thanks, Fang Aili talk 19:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

It didn't get off of the ground, what with my associate coach retiring and all of the vandalfighting I've been doing lately. If you have another candidate who would like some guidance then please do let me know! (aeropagitica) 23:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Also re admin coaching, I never knew that table existed! Im currently coaching Riana (my coaching page is here). But, in saying that I would be happy to help you too! Just say the word!  Glen  15:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] (Insert title here)

Was going to be "Admin Coaching", but I see that you already have about a dozen of these :). Re: your messages on my talk page, no problem, and I'll be happy to start coaching any time after this weekend (though feel free to match me before then :) - I'll be better with someone asking about process or vandalism (or other general admin stuff)). Thanks, Martinp23 18:39, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Coaching!

Yes, I would, however can I save my reservation for later or something? Because I'm not really going to be here much at all for a few months. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mac Davis (talk • contribs) 18:45, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

I have no idea (sorry about forgetting my signature!) three or four months? X [Mac Davis] (DESK|How's my driving?) 18:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

Hi there Fang, thanks for your message. I'm very interested in coaching, but as to whether or not I would use it for applying for 'adminship' again is doubtful at the moment. I recently self nominated for an RFA as I believed it would aid my work looking after the WikiProject on user warnings. I withdrew my nomination after a couple of opposes came in and my thoughts can be seen on my talk page. Having sat back and thought about it, I didn't remove my name from the coaching as I think that this can aid me in gaining a greater understanding in policy and practice, and does not necessarily require someone to have the mop n bucket as the end goal. So if you can find someone who'd be interested in coaching me then yes please. Thanks and regards Khukri (talk . contribs) 18:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm interesting in helping out, yeah. Andre (talk) 21:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It's official

Hey Fang Aili! I am currently coaching Fabrib. Just wanted to keep you up to date on the records. Best , Firsfron of Ronchester 21:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Response to Inquiry on Cause Marketing article deletion

Hi, thanks for responding. And I apologize if there is a better way to communicate back to you. I am still trying to learn my way around this system.

Yes, I would be more than happy to start an article on Cause Marketing. I am passionate about the topic, and I'm pretty sure I can come up with something better than what you described was happening. It is my understanding with wikis, that if that happens again in the future, malicious changes can be deleted and an article reverted back to its "pre-malicious" state?

Thanks,

Uberveritas Uberveritas (talk • contribs)

[edit] What timing...

I am just starting my job, Jan. 8th, and I have to moving from Boston, MA to Fairfax, VA so in about a weeks time, I will no longer be online until everything is hooked up in Virginia. So... I would still love the coaching to become a Sysop, but times are really wacky right now. Shane (talk/contrib) 07:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Admin coaching program

Hey Fang,

Thank you for taking this on - it looks like it's going in a in a good direction! I appreciate you working to get it running itself, that is definitly a good goal. Sorry for taking a bit to get back to you, but I'm glad to see how Admin Coaching is looking. Thanks! -- Natalya 13:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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