Talk:Félix Hernández

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[edit] Slider and nickname "King Felix"

First of all, it's simply not true that the team "won't allow" him to throw his slider. He threw it a handful of times in Tacoma, as witnessed by several people, me included. He also threw it twice against Minnesota. While they discourage it's use, he can and has thrown it. Obviously, he doesn't need it to succeed, which is why they don't want him to quickly develop the pitch.

Second, if Barker didn't come up with the name, then either Zumsteg or Cameron did since they were the only other writers for USSM at the time. If those two didn't, then it isn't appropriate to say USSM "invented" the nickname. Finding out who actually coined the term would be helpful.- CiTrusD

Zumsteg says Cameron did, but Barker was the first one to use it publicly [1]. Rather than get into that in the article, I think it's easier just to credit the blog itself. I think "invented" is acceptable unless somebody has a competing claim. --Michael Snow 02:28, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough. I guess my preference would be to name him, but I am not going to bother with a revert war. CiTrusD

I'd be more inclined to give that level of detail in an article about USS Mariner itself, since inventing the nickname is one of its claims to fame. In an article about Felix, the origin of the nickname is trivia, and anywhere else if the association is brought up, it's invariably mentioned in connection with USS Mariner as an entity without bothering about who the authors happen to be. And if USS Mariner had an article, adding that link here would put the added detail one click away. Anyway, fighting over this would definitely qualify as a lame edit war. --Michael Snow 02:52, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

All of your points make sense. I'm now on board with just leaving it the way it is. - CiTrusD