Talk:Evil clown
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What is the importance of including the following in this article: Statistical evidence for the "evil clown" meme:
A Google search shows that an estimate of approximately one in 272 web pages contains the word 'evil' and one in 2120 contains the word 'clown'. By chance, assuming a null hypothesis that the two words are uncorrelated, only one in every 576,640 web pages should contain both words. Google's estimate of the number of web pages containing both 'evil' and 'clown' is roughly one in 18,700, or 30 times higher than that predicted by chance.
The estimate of the occurrence of the exact phrase 'evil clown' is roughly one page in 450,000, significantly higher than the expected rate of finding the two words anywhere in the same document. By comparison, the exact phrase 'good clown' is only estimated to occur in one in every 3,170,000 web pages.
(All calculations to 3 significant figures, as of early 2002).
-- Zoe
No. I vote for removal since it is at best original research and really bad and flawed at that. Wikipedia is not to place to post original research. --mav 05:13 Dec 12, 2002 (UTC)
- It's flawed, all right, but not all that original. There have been some actual dead-tree type essays on this in Jungian literature (Ann and Barry Ulanov, The Witch and the Clown), where the 'dark' side of the Clown archetype = the "Trickster" of various mythologies. I can't imagine who'd look up "Evil clown", myself... --- Someone else 05:48 Dec 12, 2002 (UTC)
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- I can't believe this is actually an article on a would-be encyclopedia. And attempting to justify it by boasting stats from a search engine is the height of myopia.--69.81.161.110 23:58, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Is 'recent' an appropriate addition? What does 'recent' mean, exactly? Because a character such as the Joker points to social fears of clowns since at least the 1930s. 24.222.64.85 17:29, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Should John Wayne Gacy be added in here? He was dubbed the "Killer Clown" and may have added to the mystique of the evil clown mythology.
-Erskine
- I second this. He ought to be added.appzter 04:41, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
On the subject, I don't know how to set up redirect pages, but shouldn't "Pogo the Clown" in the article redirect to John Wayne Gacy? Stefano Magliocco 22:09, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Evil clowns in movies
Was there a movie where Russian spies posed as clowns? I think the movie featured the main characters giving aliens a glass of water, and near the beginning, one of the characters dealt with opponents by pointing his fingers at enemies and saying "bang". Andjam 00:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
There was a Stranger in a Strange Land movie? Rearden Metal 00:55, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kefka from FFVI?
Would you guys consider Kefka Palazzo from Final Fantasy VI an example of an "evil clown?" His absence from the list jumped out at me. What do you think? --Jason the Delicious
- On a related subject, evil clowns also show up as minibosses in the video game Dragon Quest II.
Also, what about Template:It (monster)?
[edit] sex and the city
whats the name of the episode when Brady has his first birthday and the lawyer doesn't like clowns; by the way which one here is afraid of clowns, Miranda or Brady
[edit] What about Michael Myers?
Does Michael Myers count?
22:50, 21 September 2006 (UTC)Enda80
- Michael Myers is not a clown though. He's simply a killer who steals and wears a mask. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.203.137.27 (talk • contribs).
He slew his first victim while dressed as a clown. His adult mask resembles one.
19:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)Enda80
[edit] Subterano
"*In the movie Saw and its sequels, the antagonist sends a clown-like doll on a bicycle to deliver macabre messages to his victims.
- In the movie Subterano, the antagonist sends a clown-like doll on a bicycle to deliver macabre messages to his victims."
I know about Saw, but based on the trailer at IMDB, it looks like Subterano has nothing to do with clowns. Because of that and the fact that it has the same description as Saw, I'm going to delete it. I don't intend on seeing it, so if it does have clowns in it, feel free to add it back in with something more closley related to it.
