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(UK and EU, Three organisations, Languages, The motto, Country?, Map, GDP billion / trillion, Number of citizens?, msg box, Capital)
Archive 3 (Apr-May 2004)
(Currencies in the union?,Timezones, Treaties, right to reside (post 2004), Gibraltar, Media:Image:Europeanunion 25.png, In The News, Who pays for the EU and how?, Freedom to live and work, GDP per capita, Methods)
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Contents

[edit] Reliability of GDP (PPP)?

Chinese GDP(PPP) goes in EU. after four years. Will you be true? If I continue an anual rate of 10% growth. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 222.146.220.31 (talk) 10:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] European Identity

Part of the process of building a national identity for the European Union will be to produce a history of Europe that justifies the EU's existence.

How about "millenia of war"? Is that justification enough for a peaceful union?Stassa 14:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The quoted sentence seems to have been dropped into its section with little regard to the flow of the article. More importantly, it's dripping with POV and begs all sorts of questions. The purpose of this article is to review what the EU is, has been and may become, on the basis of published sources. It is not its business to say or imply that the EU is a good or bad thing, or that particular forms of future development are or are not desirable. Countersubject 15:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Agree. It's extremely POV. Delete it. Indisciplined 14:58, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bugs

The Lithuania link on the Economic Variation section of the main article is displayed in Chinese characters! (Mozilla 2.0/ UTF 8.0 encoding)

Fixed the template. Someone rewrote Lithuania with Chinese characters. Gdo01 05:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interdiction in Italy

Hi, I'm Romanian and I would like an advise on the following:

- Two years ago, when I was in Italy, I got an interdiction because, according to the Italian law, I didn't go to the Chestura di polizia to register the permit of "sogiorno" (like a tourist visa), that could have allowed me to stay for three months. When they asked me my documents, they told me that they put me an interdiction because I should have registered in the first 8 days after my arrival in Italy. When I came back to Romania, I found out that this interdiction is for ten years. What I want to know is if this interdiction will still be available after Romania's entering european union in 2007.

Please help me to find this information.


Thank you! Cezar

I guess not. According to the Treaty of Rome you have the undeniable right to reside and live anywhere in the European Union when you are a citizen of the European Union (see also: Citizenship of the European Union). Any ruling violating with this is legally invalid because of the precendence of European law above national law. Maartenvdbent 19:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The best place to go for the answer is the Italian embassy or consulate in Romania. They will tell you the definitive answer. Fabhcún 00:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I would check both with your local consulate and the Italian comune where you are planing on staying. This way you are covered at both ends. --Caligvla 07:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

No it isn't a violation. Time-limited exemptions to free movement of people is permitted. I don't know what the conditions of it are but I do know that all of the EU, except Ireland, UK, and I think Sweden, continued requirements for work pemits for the 10 new members in 2004 (I can't remember when it ends). I know that even Ireland has imposed restrictions on Romania and Bulgaria, so I would assume that it will be similar elsewhere, although that might just be for working. - Рэдхот(t • c • e) 22:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes it is a violation. Under EU laws ANY EU citizens has the right to RESIDE or TRAVEL to another EU state without any limitations. HOWEVER, an individual country CAN inforce limitations on WORKERS FROM THE NEW EU states for a max of 7 years after their accession to the union; but this ristriction is only for people seeking emplyment. SO your interdiction will automatically expire as of Jan 1 2007. I am positive! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 152.97.217.126 (talk) 02:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] French Guiana

Isn't it a bit odd to show French Guiana on the map of EU counties, even though it is technically part of France.

And France is part of the EU (so by extension, so is French Guiana). What's your point? - Рэдхот(t • c • e) 22:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whole section removed???!

Why is the whole "Institutions and legal framework" section removed currently?!?!? Alinor 13:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

It was deleted by an IP and not reverted completely by Antivandalbot. Its now restored. Gdo01 14:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is the 'Free Institute of Economic Research'?

This unaccredited institute has been putting articles on subjects like Welfare Economics, European Union, and related. I have tried to find about them online, to no avail. It is a breach of NPOV to use wikipedia for self-promotion and advance of private agendas.

[edit] History and origins

I dont think mentioning anything prior to European Coal and Steal Industry is necessary. I have many academic books charting the history of the EU and none of the content pre-dates the 20th centuary. Alex Lickorish —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.5.42.1 (talk) 22:09, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Too Long

I think the article is still a bit too long. Don't you think there are some things we could take out ot possibly shorten it? Things that belong more in subarticles. I think it's important to keep articles a good length. Any ideas anyone? Brainboy109 December 12, 2006 16:36 (UTC)

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