Talk:Ethical arguments regarding torture

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[edit] Move

I have moved content from the main torture article as per the discussion on the talk page. This article is only in an early stage and needs a lot of content added. Thank you. --Silversmith 12:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] European Court of Human Rights

I have taken this from the Torture Article:

In 1978 the European Court of Human Rights ruled that the five techniques of "sensory deprivation" were not torture but were "inhuman or degrading treatment". See Accusations of use of torture by United Kingdom for details. This case was 9 years before the UNCAT came into force and had an influence on States thinking about what constitutes torture ever since.

Some of the edits I have made to this article is to remove POV about what is and is not torture.

  • Sleep deprivation is not torture, but it may be inhuman or degrading treatment. See ECHR ruling.
  • The UK a did not use torture in NI it was "inhuman or degrading treatment".

I have also re-written other sections of the article which I think were not very clear. For example the Jury section did not present a logical arguemnt why confessions extracted under duress are not valid in court. It is to do with the fact that any resonable person who can at all empthise with the victim of turture will realise that any confession that is extracted under such methods is unlikely to be worth the paper it is written on, not that juries are arbitary and torture is not used only because it is not necessary to do so.

Further I have removed the examples of alleged torture, as this is an article on the "Ethical arguments regarding torture" the examples were full of POV and recent example of torture and alledged torture exist in the Uses of torture in recent times. --Philip Baird Shearer 13:07, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Note by a spanish user: The utilitarian versus deontological section is completely wrong. Utilitarism doesn't focus in intentions; it is Kant's moral the one that does. Utilitarism says (in a more complex way) that something is right if almost everyone thinks it is.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.124.54.106 (talk • contribs).

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