Talk:Ethernet crossover cable
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[edit] Needs a lot of work
This is mostly yanked from the old TIA-568A/B article, although it didn't fit very well there. This could use some cleanup as it now lives alone. The first sentence could make a good introduction if it were simplified (without specific references to standards) and expanded to mention what a crossover cable is used for.
I've tried to do so. Other than that, article looks good from a wikification standpoint. Wikified as part of the Wikification wikiproject! JubalHarshaw 19:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Picture with wrong cabling
The first picture "A Crossover Cable suitable for use with 100baseT4." seems to be in error with its cabling.
The connector on the right shows:
GreenWhite - Green - OrangeWhite - BrownWhite - Brown - Orange - Blue - BlueWhite
The correct order would be:
GreenWhite - Green - OrangeWhie - Brown - BrownWhite - Orange - BlueWhite - Blue
So the creator of this cable switched the right pairs, but also the polarity of the first and fourth pair, which he should not.
-- (Unsigned comment by User:Treczoks)
- As mentioned in the article, Gigabit Ethernet requires those pairs to be swapped as well. So, for 1000BASE-T the picture is indeed correct.
- -- Tjohns ✎ 01:27, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rollover cable?
Is there anything like a rollover cable? I stumbled across the term, and was surprised I haven't heard over it before. May be its worth an article, together with straight through cable me think. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wk muriithi (talk • contribs) 09:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC).
- Yes, indeed, such a thing exists. It is commonly used for telephony, where the wiring order is exactly reversed at the other end of the cable. On the other hand, Ethernet patch cables use a straight-through scheme; if you place the connectors side-by-side, you'll see that the wire color sequence is the same at both ends. —QuicksilverT @ 01:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removing the "manual" part (networks created using crossover cables)
I believe the section about setting up a network connection shouldn't be here. Wikipedia is not supposed to be a user manual, only a source of information and reference.--Lenilucho 03:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
- I don't really view it as a manual, as it lacks steps and directions. It just shows how the configuration looks for any generic crossover cable setup, and no more. Could it be re-written to be more "article-like"? I view this section as both a source of information and a reference. (Can you justify that it is not?) How else would you learn how to configure an ethernet crossover network? There is no better way to show this than to than to show an example. +mwtoews 14:54, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- P.S., I do share your opinion with some other articles, such as Screenshot, or even worse where a programming language is involved with examples etc., which are hardly encyclopedia material. They're useful, but I have no clue where else they would be appropriate. +mwtoews 14:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Are you referring to section "Networks created using crossover cables"? What section are you referring to? Logictheo 16:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I am referring to that part. At the time when I wrote that, it looked much more like an instructions manual.--Leonardo Horovitz 00:12, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Too many pictures
One amature picture of cable ends is enough. Users find it a lot more useful to have a detailed pinout for their reference.
