User talk:Estel

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Contents 1 Suggestions 2 copyvio 3 Sollog 4 Comments 5 No Turtle Scouts 6 friend 7 Bersilat merging 8 If I upload my work to Wikipedia it is under GFDL, no additional statement necessary 9 Accident at WP:FAC 10 FA tomorrow, etc 11 Thank you 12 Regarding Totally Spies Article 13 Regarding "Totally Spies" Article 14 Category:UK Wikipedians 15 Image:Ique01.jpg has been listed for deletion 16 1.0 Collaboration of the Week 17 Reverts 18 Joke new messages 19 Star Wars Wikiproject 20 Version 1.0 "Release Version Qualifying" 21 WP 1.0 22 Maplecroft pic 23 WikiProject Star Wars newsletter 24 Libya 25 Star Wars WikiProject Roll Call

[edit] Suggestions

[edit] copyvio

Moved to [1]

• have you read my last post on my talk page? User:Darwinek 20:43 UTC, 25-11-04

[edit] Sollog

Never tag articles for speedy deletion without checking the edit history first. In this case, a vandal had blanked the page, and the appropriate course of action was to revert. Only speedy new articles that are patent nonsense or blank. JRM 19:27, 2004 Dec 12 (UTC)

• My mistake - I was working through a list of someone's past vandalising edits - the others had all been New pages and I sorta lost my thread. Estel (talk) 19:42, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)

  's alright. We're on tenterhooks a bit because the Sollog article is suffering rapid-fire vandalism (by, we assume, its subject). People tagging it for speedy isn't helping. :-) JRM 19:44, 2004 Dec 12 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

Hi Estel,

Concerning the correct latin name for the Russell's Viper, it used to be classified as a member of the genus Vipera. As a matter of fact, most people probably still think of it as vipera russellii, including myself. However, it seems that it was reclassified somewhere during the last decade or so, probably after a study of its genetic makeup and comparison with that of other Vipera members. Thus, it now has its own genus, Daboia (is also one of its common names).

Cheers,

Jaap Winius The Netherlands jwinius@umrk.to

[edit] No Turtle Scouts

http://www.noturtlescouts.com

Please follow the link and read it before calling it stupid.

Perhaps a better description should be:

Failure of Youth Protection

or Caution; avoid turtles in scouts

or Illegal Parallel Scouting Organization

This is a very real problem in the states, and likely beyond.

You may understand the nature of the problem unless you are a turtle yourself. Are you a turtle ?

If by your "sweet ass" you are a turtle, then you are subverting the basic tenants of scouting. If you are not a turtle, become aware and help formulate methodology for stopping this travisty that marginalizes many of the best scouts and scouters and drives others out of scouting entirely.

Have you ever noticed adults or boys in positions of authority that exhibit unscout like characteristics? Do they hang together and advance in scouting together and continue their unscoutlike conduct? If so you may have identified a clutch of turtles. In the Occoneechee Council they run the OA and have significant detremental influence on the Council as a whole. They are anti-thema to scouting. However their secrecy, and good ol boy system of working together behind the scenes with harrassment, and gossip while publically declaring that they do not exist is their prima modus operanda. Think about unscoutlike behaviour you have seen, particularly in individuals in key leadership positions. Turtleship is one method they use to survive.

I did read it - and still called it stupid. Though perhaps I shouldn't have used that word. Doing a google search for "Turtle scout" returns 32 links - it doesn't seem that widespread a problem. You're messing around anyway, methinks. Estel (talk) 15:46, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for reading the site. Years ago there were lots of references on the web that included turtles and scouting. They were bold then. During the last 4 years they have made a sustained effort to harrass people insisting on posting publicly the word association "scout" and "turtle".

Please search some www archive site from say 1999 and see what you find.

It is widespread in the States. Keep an eye out for co-ordinated unscoutlike activities.

[edit] friend

I think you've made a friend. Congratulations, this kind of behaviour is generally a sign you're doing something very right. &#0xfeff; --fvw* 03:02, 2004 Dec 21 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting it. Was that sarcasm within the "you're doing something very right" or was it some sort of Wiki-truth? :PEstel (talk) 08:47, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Bersilat merging

I think it was a great idea to merge them. Thanks! If you have an interest in martial arts articles, perhaps you should check out the Martial Arts Project -- we can always use more help. Keep up the good work. --Aesopian 14:22, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] If I upload my work to Wikipedia it is under GFDL, no additional statement necessary

Dear Estel, thank you for the comment on my talk page, however, I do not understand why people are asking me to state that my photographs (that are clearly stated to be mine work) need a GFDL statement. The very fact of uploading my work to Wikipedia is a grant of GFDL, that is clear from all the various copyright notices, disclaimers, etc., that one finds here, no? — © Alex756 05:42, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Accident at WP:FAC

There was an editing accident (probably MySQL error or cut-n-paste error) on Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates that resulting in the page contents being duplicated. A number of edits had occurred by the time it was noticed, but I tried to preserve everything while removing duplicate material. Just in case, mosey on over and check if your vote stuck. If you have any questions, respond on my talk page. Thanks!

-- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 20:52, 2005 Mar 29 (UTC)

[edit] FA tomorrow, etc

Hi Estel. If you feel that ETPH should be featured on the main page tomorrow, say so; no need to compromise. +sj +

[edit] Thank you

Thank you very much for awarding me with this glorious barnstar. It is a satisfaction for me, cause of my work. Thank you once again. P.S. I thought that you don't like me, cause of my October-November 2004 newbie copyvio problems. Nice to see, that Wikipedians are merciful. :) By the way, which of my "hard work" do you appreciate most? -- Darwinek 07:11, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Specifically for your countless civil rights and Carribean athletes articles, which are not only good reads but vital for Wikipedia in their scope, it seems as though many topics like these aren't written about so much; making your contributions all the more remarkable. You've probably created more articles than I have edits :s. By all accounts you're 475 largest contributor in the main namespace, and 455th in all namespaces, according to Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits. I hope you keep contributing :) - Estel (talk) 08:59, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Oh yeh, thanks for correcting that typo on my user page and updating it :)

[edit] Regarding Totally Spies Article

The reason I deleted the paragraph in question is because there is no proof that Marathon (a French company) was inspired by the (American) detective drama Charlie's Angels. As such, it must be assumed that Marathon wasn't thinking about Charlie's Angels at the time they created it. The whole "Charlie's Angels" comparison was just media hype based on the assumption that TS was an American show created for American viewers, when in fact it was created by a French company for an international (read: not just an American) audience, notwithstanding the fact that TS takes place in America and stars American teenage girls with American names. It's like they always say during closing credit sequences: "Any resemblance is purely co-incidental".

Oh, and one other thing. I didn't want "anime" involved in this, and rather then bring in that argument, I deleted that part as well.

[edit] Regarding "Totally Spies" Article

Dear Estel,

The reason for my deleting the paragraph in question is because there is no proof that Marathon (a French company) was inspired by the (American) detective drama "Charlie's Angels". As such, it must be assumed that they (Marathon) weren't thinking about the show (Charlie's Angels) at the time they created it. The whole Charlie's Angels comparison was just media hype that assumes that TS was an American series created specifically for Americans, when in fact it was created by Marathon for an international (read: not just an American) audience notwithstanding the fact that it (TS) takes place in America and stars American teenage girls with American names. It's like they always say during closing credits: "Any resemblance is purely co-incidental".

[edit] Category:UK Wikipedians

Hi, just to let you know that the list of UK participants at the UK notice board was getting rather long, so I have replaced it with the above category which I have added to your user page. -- Francs2000 | Talk 30 June 2005 19:23 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Ique01.jpg has been listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Ique01.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

/Grillo 09:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1.0 Collaboration of the Week

Hi, I noticed you signed up as a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. Recently, a 1.0 Collaboration of the Week was created to work on essential topics that are in need of improvement, which will ultimately go in a release version of Wikipedia. You can help by voting, contributing to an article, or simply making a comment. Thank you for your support. :) Gflores ^Talk 08:04, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverts

I'm just a member of the CVU not an admin. I've passed your note over to some admins though. Tawker 02:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

What note? :s - Estel ^(talk) 11:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joke new messages

Made you cry....... now now, I'm not the only person to have it :) Tawker 02:25, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Star Wars Wikiproject

Hello! Thank you for participating in the Star Wars Wikiproject. The participants sectin has recently been changed so it would be appreciated that you put the template {{User Star Wars WikiProject}} onto your Userpage so that you appear in Category:WikiProject Star Wars members. That way you appear in the listing of WikiProject Star Wars members. Jedi6 04:15, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Version 1.0 "Release Version Qualifying"

Hi, I'm interested in your feedback on Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Qualifying. It's essentially an idea to use a process similar to WP:FAC to identify and handle articles and lists that would go in a release version. Maurreen 19:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP 1.0

I thought since you are interested in this project you might be interested to see a CD version of en now exists see Wikipedia:Wikipedia-CD/Download & 2006 WP CD Selection. This is being discussed on the 1.0 project pages but progress breeds enthusiasm so I thought I would let you know. --BozMo talk 09:07, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maplecroft pic

Yes the GFDL was an error, I have amended it to creative commons attribution. I have checked out the link you provided, I'd appreciate it if you would add my name to the image page as the creator of the work—which is what I really mean by attribution, rather than a single link back to the page of origin. I have one reservation about licensing my work under the Creative Commons Attribution NonCommercial ShareAlike 1.0—I've been considering compiling some of my work into a cofftable photo book and I wouldn't want the license to prevent me from being able to do that, given that publishers usually want some amount of profit. If I misunderstand the copyright you proposed please get back to me. Thanks. -JCarriker 08:53, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Star Wars newsletter

Project updates Greetings, Star Wars editors! Deckiller here. It's the first edition of the WikiProject Star Wars newsletter, and yes, it's a semi-ripoff of the Esperenza newsletter. I think it's important to begin with some good news: Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones, Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and Jabba the Hutt have reached featured article status! Kudos to the editors who helped obtain these achievements! WikiProject Star Wars is also on a mission to improve Star Wars articles using the following ideas: An out of universe perspective versus an in universe perspective (see Wikipedia:Writing about fiction and the future ammendments to our manual of style) Evolving lists into regular articles Moving excess information and specifics to Wookieepedia (and providing links to Wookieepedia per the "see also" and/or "external links" sections) Enhanced communication amongst WikiProject members More to come These should provide the basic steps needed to improve and "encyclopedia-fy" the Star Wars series of articles. Things to do There are plenty of Wikipedia:WikiProject Star Wars/things to do. An update to the page is coming very soon, and it will represent the new and exciting changes that Star Wars pages will be receiving! Out-of-universe versus in-universe perspectives Although details are forthcoming, I would like to take this time to explain the gist of this concept. Wikipedia has generally agreed that fictional articles should write about the topic from a "real world" perspective, focusing on real world issues and topics, with a section or two for plot synopsis and so on. Jabba the Hutt is a solid character example, and Clone Wars (Star Wars) is quickly moving toward an out of universe perspective.

Article evolution As many of you know, lists of minor Star Wars-related themes are very common on Wikipedia; however, since these may be seen as violations of Wikipedia policy (and having seperate articles would breach even more policies), the tentative solution is to create general articles on a list's topic (for example, turning List of Star Wars devices into Technology of Star Wars, which allows us to cover everything from hyperspace to comlinks in a general encyclopedic fashion). This can be very tough for some broad topics, so the key is organization. I encourage all editors to list their ideas on the WikiProject talk page. It will be a very difficult — but tangible — effort. For an example, let me point you to the Final Fantasy WikiProject. Some of us over at that WikiProject decided to turn various components of Final Fantasy X, such as Pyreflies, Yevon, and the backstory — into an article describing the world of Spira. Location descriptions were given a List of locations in Spira article, and the details themselves were placed on the Spira (Final Fantasy X) page. This is a decent template to follow — however, we will need to place priority on out-of-universe, "real life" topics and perspectives in realtion to the article. Sounds confusing, eh? It won't, for examples will be popping up left and right in the near future! Signed... — Deckiller 03:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Libya

Hi,

I've recently added Libya to the list of featured article candidates. Overall the candidature is going well with many of the objections now sorted out. The final concrete objection is with the article's prose. I have been the main contributor to the article and have been looking at it for the previous 9 - 10 months. My eyes no longer see it freshly, so I am not a suitable copy-editor!

To meet the final demand of copy editing, I have been advised to ask different people to edit parts of the article.

I would really love to get this article featured as you can probably see from the page's history! I've worked very hard on it and I see this as possibly being the final hurdle.

You can see the prose objections, mostly raised by Sandy, on the candidature page. If you have the time, please choose a section (Politics, Religion, Culture etc.) and copyedit, perfect, ace it! I would be very grateful with any help I can get.

Thanks a lot,

--Jaw101ie 16:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Star Wars WikiProject Roll Call

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Again, Thank you for your help! --Team6and7 02:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)