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2005 Advisory Committee Elections
Final Result edit
Tranche A 1st and 2nd
Tranche B 3rd and 4th
Tiebreaker If more than 2 in either Tranche
User Votes
Flcelloguy 23
Acetic Acid 22
Ryan Norton 16
Bratsche 16
Titoxd 13
Exir Kamalabadi 13
Sam Korn 12
Gryffindor 11
Howabout1 8
JobE6 7
Dmn 7
JDH Owens 6
Ambi 5
JAranda 4
SWD316 4
Homer Simpson π mmmm....π....
Remember to thank your attractive election staff

Contents

[edit] Votes to be Discarded

Some votes were cast before the voting opened, and need therefore to be discarded. Specifically Acetic Acid's votes. JDH Owenstalk | Esperanza 18:34, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Poll workers, please notify anyone who had their votes discarded, so they may have the chance to make valid votes. (And please, don't strike any votes, as the voters can simply come back and re-sign where they previously did.) -- Essjay · Talk 20:23, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
I did so yesterday. I informed both Acetic Acid and Wiki Alf (this was about 10 minutes after polls opened) and wiki alf revoted. I dont know about Acetic Acid though. Banes 06:50, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Oops! Sorry about that. For whatever reason, I read 12:00 as midnight, so I thought they opened right as soon as it became Friday. I've moved my votes to the bottom of each list and changed the time. Acetic'Acid 20:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Election Scorecard

I'll update this as often as possible. As of this edit, 12 of 76 possible Esperanzans(15.78%) have voted.Karmafist 21:58, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Type O Spud is listed as a member and has voted in this election. However, if you click on his user page with a link to his Kate's Tool, you will find that he only has 85 edits, and has been here less than 2 weeks (tomorrow will be the completion of his second week on Wikipedia). According to the charter, membership is open to any Wikipedian with one hundred and fifty (150) edits and has stayed at Wikipedia for at least two weeks. It appears that he does not meet the membership requirements; should his vote be counted? Let me get this clear - I have nothing against Type O Spud, and I'm not trying to get anyone's votes discounted. It doesn't matter whom he voted for- me, Jimbo Wales, or God - I just feel that we that the integrity of the charter must be maintained. Otherwise, what use would the charter be? Though I might feel different personally, it seems like the charter says otherwise, and I beleive that the charter should be upheld. Thanks very much for taking a look at this, and thanks for your understanding! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh no! *bangs head against wall* Flcelloguy is right, the charter must be upheld. Type O Spud's votes must be discounted, and I'll leave him a note saying why. -- Essjay · Talk 23:59, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Go for it, boss. Your talented and attractive election staff has made the necessary changes on the main page. Karmafist 00:32, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

The dastardly deed is done. And thanks to the electioneers! -- Essjay · Talk 04:44, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RE: EA election

(Excerpted from my talk page -- Essjay · Talk 04:44, 8 October 2005 (UTC))

I'm just letting you know that since Esperanza has basically placed me on a pedestal as founder, I believe it would be inappropriate for me to vote in the election as I would inherently be expressing a lack of confidence in indivual users, which seems counter to the postion I have within the organization. Please make a note of my vote of neutrality and expression of my support of the election and best wishes to all of the canididates. -JCarriker 04:32, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I myself must second this. As a previous admin general, I will not vote as I believe if I were to it'd just lead to a drop in self esteem for those I didn't vote for. Essjay will not be voting either for the same reason. Cheers. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:47, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Would a vote for all of the candidates not be appropriate then? Showing you have confidence in all of them? --Celestianpower hablamé 16:03, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
  • It is better to establish the Neutrality precedent now. It is possible that in the future a former or current admin gen may oppose one or more candidates, it is quite possible this is already the case. Part of Esperanza's philosophy is giving others a chance to take the lead, this is what I and the other "senior" figures are doing in this instance. -JCarriker 20:07, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Seconded. However I did vote just to neutralize votes of those who voted for themselves, though I would prefer it if I could make User:Redwolf24's esperanza election bot ;-) I don't directly support or un-support anyone I voted or didn't vote for though, as JCarriker and Essjay I will keep those lists in my mind. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:53, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Notification

I know that some members were notified about the election via the spamlist, but what about the other sixty-odd users that have signed up, and might not have these pages watchlisted. Has a message been sent out to them? That might be a good idea, since our vote participation might be a bit low. Bratschetalk | Esperanza 13:16, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I've notified our Official Spamster about this. Thanks for the suggestion! Titoxd(?!?) 17:38, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] To our lovely poll workers

To our lovely and capable poll worker(s), I have a comment. I must say I am flattered by Banes's vote for me, but it appears that he has inadvertantly voted for me twice, if I am correct. Unless I am mistaken, shouldn't the second vote be invalidated? Thanks! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:03, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Rm'd. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:07, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Oooooh, I wanted to be sure I had voted for you. I was supposed to be looking out for that sort of thing myself. I feel like a total dumbass:-) Banes 07:13, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Voting for self?

I see a few candidates voting for themselves. I feel like having it known I personally frown upon this, and I'm tempted to vote for everyone who didn't do as such, to even it out. I'd appreciate it if those who did this would abstain. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:25, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. I saw other candidates do the same, so I didn't know it was frowned upon. I'm retiring my own vote. Titoxd(?!?) 00:28, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
To neutralize the votes of those who voted for themselves, I voted for everyone who hadn't done as such, its the only way I knew how, besides removing votes, but I'm not the admin general ;-) Note I didn't vote for Ambi for one reason: She's not listed at WP:ESP/M. Ambi is still one of my favorite Wikipedians anyway, she's great. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:52, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I wasn't sure if it would have mattered at first (since everyone could vote for everyone else, each could vote for themselves). I've removed my self-vote. Acetic'Acid 02:52, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Stay away from Template:Esperanza Election (though you can thank those at Template talk:Esperanza Election ;D)  ;-) I voted for you, so nothing to change :D Redwolf24 (talk) 03:09, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Eep! Sorry again. But thanks for your neutralizer vote. Acetic'Acid 03:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
  • No more colons! Anywho, I think the self voting thing is only really an issue for people "in the running" so to speak, I have no problem with people near the bottom making themselves feel a little more competitive. I'm surprised with Ambi's total considering that she's something of a legend apparently.

Oh yeah, before I go, let me show you the formula on how the candidates can get my vote who haven't gotten it already(i'll put it in TeX later)

  1. Do some random nice thing somewhere on Wikipedia, per the spirit of Esperanza.
  2. Show me what you did and/or compliment me on how i'm such a talented and attractive election worker
  3. Watch me vote for you.

The ones I've voted for currently have already shown me that they do frequent and high caliber nice things all over the place. Karmafist 13:08, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

If I may, it goes roughly the same for me. Banes 18:27, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Campaigns

Where can one go to read about a hopeful's plans once they're elected? As it stands I don't know who I want to vote for. Jaberwocky6669 | 00:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Giving Homer Simpson some π

Sorry SWD316, I just voted for you so I could vote for Homer Simpson in order to give everybody a laugh and a smile(The Esperanzan Way) and not make it seem like election fraud. You all can remove that from the template if you'd like, I will repent to Jebus if needed. Karmafist 18:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The election

I think we can all pat ourselves on the back (some deserve slightly harder pats, like Essjay, Redwolf24, Celestianpower and Karmafist) for carrying out a free and fair election. On the main talk page, Essjay asks poll workers to certify the results. As far as I can see, there is no evidence of sockpuppetry, double voting, voter intimidation or any other abuses. There have been no non-Esperanza member votes cast, so to Essjay, yes, I'd say these results are valid. If another poll worker could go over it too to double check that would be nice. Banes 10:35, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes - I've had a look and everything seems to be in order. Nice election and the table above is the final result. --Celestianpower hablamé 12:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
I wish to thank all of the fabulous poll workers (er... election staff). You've all been fair, helpful, and attractive. :P I've got some thank you cards to send to our voters now. Acetic'Acid 19:27, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
I've got to thank the election staff too! I'm happy with the way everything was carried out. Kudos for a clean election. Maybe Florida can learn something... ;) Titoxd(?!?) 21:16, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks to our able poll workers. Also, can't we lay off Florida? We can use Ohio as the scapegoat for the 2004 elections! :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 22:14, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, thanks to the election staff - an election on Wikipedia that actually went smoothly... I think that's like a first or something :). Table was neat-o too :). Ryan Norton T | @ | C 22:17, 14 October 2005 (UTC)