Wikipedia:Esperanza/Advisory Committee Meeting April 2006/log

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6-4-2006 17:33 Celestianpower Good
6-4-2006 17:33 Celestianpower Let us begin
6-4-2006 17:33 Celestianpower First on the agenda, elections
6-4-2006 17:33 Celestianpower Same system as before?
6-4-2006 17:33 Celestianpower Yes
6-4-2006 17:34 Celestianpower Approval voting
6-4-2006 17:34 KnowledgeOfSelf Yes I thought it worked out fine
6-4-2006 17:34 JoanneB yeah
6-4-2006 17:34 Celestianpower Okay, 3 spaces are up this time, since KOS is leaving us
6-4-2006 17:35 FireFox Yes
6-4-2006 17:35 Celestianpower Tito, FF and KOS will be re-elected or replaced
6-4-2006 17:35 KnowledgeOfSelf Yes
6-4-2006 17:35 Celestianpower Okay
6-4-2006 17:35 Celestianpower When shall we start submissions?
6-4-2006 17:35 Celestianpower *start accepting
6-4-2006 17:35 JoanneB asap?
6-4-2006 17:36 FireFox ASAP
6-4-2006 17:36 Celestianpower So, tonight, after the newsletter is sent out?
6-4-2006 17:36 KnowledgeOfSelf On what date do the elections start?
6-4-2006 17:36 Celestianpower 1 week before the 31st
6-4-2006 17:37 Celestianpower 24th
6-4-2006 17:37 JoanneB erm
6-4-2006 17:37 JoanneB it's April :P
6-4-2006 17:37 FireFox 30 days in september...
6-4-2006 17:37 Celestianpower Well, 23rd then  ;)
6-4-2006 17:37 KnowledgeOfSelf lol
6-4-2006 17:37 FireFox  :P
6-4-2006 17:37 Celestianpower So that gives people 2 weeks 3 days to submit themselves
6-4-2006 17:38 Celestianpower Is that not a bit long?
6-4-2006 17:38 KnowledgeOfSelf Sounds alright
6-4-2006 17:38 FireFox Yeah that's fine
6-4-2006 17:38 JoanneB perhaps, but I don't think it's a problem
6-4-2006 17:39 KnowledgeOfSelf Since there are 3 new spots, it will give more people time to decide if they want to run
6-4-2006 17:39 Celestianpower Okay then
6-4-2006 17:39 Celestianpower  ;)
6-4-2006 17:39 JoanneB lol
6-4-2006 17:39 JoanneB ("We overruled the Admin Gen! We overruled the Admin Gen! )
6-4-2006 17:39 FireFox Yey!
6-4-2006 17:39 KnowledgeOfSelf lol
6-4-2006 17:39 KnowledgeOfSelf always wanted to do that before he left  :P
6-4-2006 17:39 Celestianpower Okay, all previous councillors and Admin Gens are allowed to run?
6-4-2006 17:39 Celestianpower Seemed to work last time
6-4-2006 17:40 JoanneB yes
6-4-2006 17:40 FireFox yes
6-4-2006 17:40 KnowledgeOfSelf Yes
6-4-2006 17:40 Celestianpower Good
6-4-2006 17:40 Celestianpower Anything else election-related we need to discuss?
6-4-2006 17:40 KnowledgeOfSelf Maybe
6-4-2006 17:41 FireFox We need to make the election pages before we send out the newsletter
6-4-2006 17:41 Celestianpower Yes
6-4-2006 17:41 KnowledgeOfSelf Yes
6-4-2006 17:41 KnowledgeOfSelf Nevermind my "maybe":D I can't think of anything :D
6-4-2006 17:41 Celestianpower KnowledgeOfSelf: Okay
6-4-2006 17:41 Celestianpower Next issue
6-4-2006 17:41 Celestianpower Taken from WP:ESP/ACM5
6-4-2006 17:42 Celestianpower Code Of Conduct
6-4-2006 17:42 Celestianpower User:Celestianpower/Sandbox has a draft that we've been working on
6-4-2006 17:43 Celestianpower  !AC What do we think - is it ready to submit to the Esperanza membership in its current form?
6-4-2006 17:43 Celestianpower Anything else we could add?
6-4-2006 17:43 JoanneB hm if we're going to keep it general like this, I can't think of anything right now
6-4-2006 17:43 KnowledgeOfSelf Nor me
6-4-2006 17:44 Celestianpower JoanneB: Do you have any other suggestions?
6-4-2006 17:44 KnowledgeOfSelf But it is ready to be proposed on Esperanza's talk page
6-4-2006 17:44 JoanneB if particular sections would be inserted, I'd like 'RFA behaviour' and 'IRC behaviour' - although, yes, I know those issues should be covered by what we have right now  :-)
6-4-2006 17:44 Celestianpower Yeah
6-4-2006 17:44 JoanneB but it's ready to go out into the world, yes
6-4-2006 17:45 JoanneB for discussion
6-4-2006 17:45 Celestianpower Good
6-4-2006 17:45 Celestianpower  !AC Are we in agreeement that User:Celestianpower/Sandbox is ready to move to WP:ESP/CC and be discussed by the Esperanza community?
6-4-2006 17:45 Celestianpower Aye
6-4-2006 17:46 FireFox Oui
6-4-2006 17:46 JoanneB aye
6-4-2006 17:46 KnowledgeOfSelf Aye
6-4-2006 17:46 Celestianpower God
6-4-2006 17:46 Celestianpower *Good
6-4-2006 17:46 Celestianpower That's everything I've got
6-4-2006 17:46 Celestianpower Oh no, wait
6-4-2006 17:46 Celestianpower Newsletter
6-4-2006 17:46 Celestianpower  !AC Which programs should we "feature"?
6-4-2006 17:47 Celestianpower  !AC Wake up!
6-4-2006 17:47 KnowledgeOfSelf The new one
6-4-2006 17:48 Celestianpower We have a new program?
6-4-2006 17:48 KnowledgeOfSelf The Barnstar Brigade
6-4-2006 17:48 Celestianpower Ah yes
6-4-2006 17:48 JoanneB you accepted it yourself CP  ;)
6-4-2006 17:48 Celestianpower Has a page been started yet?
6-4-2006 17:48 KnowledgeOfSelf Yes
6-4-2006 17:49 Celestianpower Ooh - where?
6-4-2006 17:49 KnowledgeOfSelf Wikipedia:Esperanza/Barnstar Brigade
6-4-2006 17:49 KnowledgeOfSelf It is not linked to the current programs page yet
6-4-2006 17:50 Celestianpower Wow
6-4-2006 17:50 Celestianpower That looks cool
6-4-2006 17:50 Celestianpower Okay, that's one featured program
6-4-2006 17:50 Celestianpower Another, secondary feature?
6-4-2006 17:50 KnowledgeOfSelf Stress alerts would get my vote
6-4-2006 17:51 JoanneB mine too
6-4-2006 17:51 FireFox yep
6-4-2006 17:51 KnowledgeOfSelf I think Stress alerts should always be featured
6-4-2006 17:51 Celestianpower Would that not get a bit dull?
6-4-2006 17:51 Celestianpower People would stop reading that bit
6-4-2006 17:52 KnowledgeOfSelf Well, maybe
6-4-2006 17:52 JoanneB for now, it'd be fine as a secondary program though
6-4-2006 17:52 Celestianpower Okay
6-4-2006 17:52 KnowledgeOfSelf But the Stress alerts gets a lot of people added to it, so the more often it's checked the better
6-4-2006 17:53 JoanneB btw, did anyone else get any complaints about the size? comments that we should leave a link instead of the whole thing?
6-4-2006 17:53 KnowledgeOfSelf JoanneB: No
6-4-2006 17:53 FireFox No, all I got was "like the new style" messages
6-4-2006 17:53 Celestianpower Yeah
6-4-2006 17:53 JoanneB ok - then it was just two out of 300 - not a reason to change it, I think
6-4-2006 17:53 Celestianpower There was one user who thought it was too big but other than that
6-4-2006 17:53 Celestianpower Yeah
6-4-2006 17:54 Celestianpower  !AC Is our current accept/reject system working?
6-4-2006 17:54 KnowledgeOfSelf It works, but it is too slow
6-4-2006 17:55 JoanneB agrees
6-4-2006 17:55 FireFox agreed
6-4-2006 17:55 Celestianpower I just had a look recently (hence the acceptance of Barnstar Brigade) but none of the others looked like they'd had enough discussion
6-4-2006 17:55 Celestianpower Is that just advertising probvlems or that they're not popular
6-4-2006 17:55 Celestianpower  ?
6-4-2006 17:56 Celestianpower You can't tell
6-4-2006 17:56 KnowledgeOfSelf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Esperanza/Proposals#Kindness_campaign.2FEsperanza Since I'm the only one that has made an edit to that section, you my all delete it, unless one of you or anyone would like to run with it
6-4-2006 17:56 FireFox Perhaps in the newsletter we could "advertise" the proposals more, welcoming any suggestions
6-4-2006 17:56 Celestianpower Yes
6-4-2006 17:56 KnowledgeOfSelf I think some of the ideas might not be very popular
6-4-2006 17:57 Celestianpower Yeah
6-4-2006 17:57 Celestianpower Should we implement a system of removing ideas?
6-4-2006 17:57 JoanneB well, they can't stay on forever of course, but it's hard to say when to remove them
6-4-2006 17:58 JoanneB if there's no consensus after an x amount of time?
6-4-2006 17:58 Celestianpower We could do that
6-4-2006 17:58 KnowledgeOfSelf If after X time, no one makes an attempt to discuss a new idea, it will be archived
6-4-2006 17:58 Celestianpower Or, X people don't like it?
6-4-2006 17:59 JoanneB hm that would be harder, I think
6-4-2006 17:59 Celestianpower Hmmm
6-4-2006 17:59 Celestianpower It's a difficult one
6-4-2006 17:59 KnowledgeOfSelf Discussion could restart if someone expresses an interest in it
6-4-2006 17:59 Celestianpower Remember you three - you can accept or reject proposals too
6-4-2006 17:59 JoanneB a) people will tend to be nice about other's ideas, and not say it that clearly that they don't like it  :-) and b) you could have a group of, say, 3 people shoot down every idea at once
6-4-2006 18:00 JoanneB so having x amount of people as a criterion to remove it could pose some problems
6-4-2006 18:00 Celestianpower JoanneB: First one is a real possibility, 2 is, but with Esperanzians? That would go against our ethos
6-4-2006 18:00 Celestianpower  !AC I think this is a sub-issue
6-4-2006 18:01 Celestianpower We should just be bold
6-4-2006 18:02 JoanneB ok
6-4-2006 18:02 Celestianpower If we think it's an unpopular idea, archive it
6-4-2006 18:02 Celestianpower If it seems to bew supported, accept it
6-4-2006 18:02 Celestianpower Do you agree?
6-4-2006 18:02 FireFox sí
6-4-2006 18:02 KnowledgeOfSelf If after 3 weeks time, no one makes an attempt to discuss a new idea, it will be archived, discussion could restart if someone expresses an interest in it
6-4-2006 18:02 JoanneB aye
6-4-2006 18:03 Celestianpower Okay
6-4-2006 18:03 Celestianpower  !AC Any other issues need discussing?
6-4-2006 18:03 FireFox I was wondering
6-4-2006 18:03 FireFox If it was ok if I could use AWB again this week?
6-4-2006 18:03 JoanneB FireFox: for the newsletter?
6-4-2006 18:04 FireFox Yes
6-4-2006 18:04 JoanneB Misza has created a bot for it
6-4-2006 18:04 Celestianpower Yeah
6-4-2006 18:04 Celestianpower In thew past half hour
6-4-2006 18:04 FireFox I did ask Celestianpower earlier if we had a bot
6-4-2006 18:04 FireFox  :)
6-4-2006 18:04 Celestianpower Yeah, we didn't but now we do
6-4-2006 18:04 FireFox But that's good
6-4-2006 18:04 Celestianpower Right
6-4-2006 18:04 Celestianpower  !AC Any other issues?
6-4-2006 18:04 KnowledgeOfSelf None here
6-4-2006 18:05 JoanneB No
6-4-2006 18:05 FireFox Make sure the newsletter doesn't have any dud links or broken redirects this week?:P
6-4-2006 18:05 JoanneB lol
6-4-2006 18:05 Celestianpower FireFox: Okay lol
6-4-2006 18:05 Celestianpower So, that's meeting closed I guess
6-4-2006 18:06 KnowledgeOfSelf I do not want the newsletter this week, if possible
6-4-2006 18:06 Celestianpower I'll sum up
6-4-2006 18:08 Celestianpower 1). Elections - Approval voting, previous councillors/Admin Gens can run, to be started tonight
6-4-2006 18:08 Celestianpower 2). User:celestianpower/Sandbox to be moved and discussed
6-4-2006 18:08 Celestianpower 3). Barnstar Brigade and Stress alerts to be "featured" in the Newsletter; Proposals to be advertised
6-4-2006 18:08 Celestianpower 4). Current system of accepting proposals deemed fine
6-4-2006 18:08 Celestianpower Did I miss anything?
6-4-2006 18:09 KnowledgeOfSelf We overruled you for the first time  :P
6-4-2006 18:09 JoanneB No, but point 2 could be a bit clearer for outsiders  :-)
6-4-2006 18:09 Celestianpower Yes
6-4-2006 18:09 Celestianpower It will be
6-4-2006 18:09 JoanneB ok
6-4-2006 18:09 Celestianpower Good
6-4-2006 18:09 Celestianpower Meeting closed
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