Talk:Eskrima
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Wing Tsun has a special connection to Escrima, or at least the Wing Tsun club I briefly practised at liked to combine Wing Tsun with escrima -- is this anything interesting that should go in the article. I have no idea how these two relate, or how much. ✏ Sverdrup 17:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
- Historically, they were unrelated until the last fifty years (or less). Bruce Lee was trained in Wing Chun and learned Eskrima from Dan Inosanto; since he and Dan Inosanto were instrumental in popularizing both arts, they tend to be linked.
- Technically, they have certain similarities (and also some essential differences), so that teaching them together is more reasonable than teaching some other pairs of martial arts together.
- Information about this, suitably researched, would be reasonable addition to the history section of this article. --Andrew 21:53, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
- They are very related in thought, though can be seen as coming to the same place from different directions. However a philosophical discussion is beyond the scope of this article. It would be nice to add a small section about the comparisons however... 75.26.7.122 10:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I think this article needs some serious clean-up...
"Many believe many of these philippine fighting system have strong historical roots from Indonesian martial arts that are Chinese influenced like Kun Dao. Kun Dao (literally the way of the fist) of course finds its roots from Ch'uan Fa(which is a generic word for what westerners would call kung fu(beautiful skill), it also literally means way of the fist.) Other systems that have similar movements to many Filipino systems that also find their roots from Ch'uan Fa. These systems are known by varying degrees of arguements in the west about the exact nature of their name whether it be Kempo or Kenpo both literally mean Way of the fist. There are even counts of lost Ch'uan and Tai Chi Double stick forms that many of the freeing rengade monks would of trained for that period. These Chinese based influences are not as powerful as the direct links to the cultural and politcal unrest found in the Philippines even today. However they are still important to note since they provide historical evidence that is overwhelming and can add to ones understanding of the much deeper nuances and movements of and in the systems. Many even belive the systems are totally intact in the way profound chinese arts onces were before events like the cultural revolution."
What is this actually trying to say? "According to some rumors eskrima may have a connection to a presumed lost two-stick form of tai chi"? Less speculation, more facts, please.
Did some clean-up.
BTW, the picture with the "eskrima sword" is not likely a real eskrima sword, but rather a product of Western imagination like the "ninja-to". I suggest it should be replaced with a photo of a real Filipino weapon.
- Did some copy-editing, which may have changed some meaning. Namely, I changed "freeing monks" to "fleeing monks". I have no knowledge of eskrima, martial arts history, or Philippine history, so I'm just doing a best guess on what the original contributor meant. I was also hoping for a bit more background on this supposed connection between Philippine and Indonesian/Chinese forms. I was going to ask if anybody had anything to add on this issue, but it looks like someone already beat me to it. I'm going to place a cleanup notice on that section. Hopefully, it'll make readers alert and more likely to read critically until some expert can sort this thing out. crazyeddie 20:25, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
"BTW, the picture with the "eskrima sword" is not likely a real eskrima sword,[...]"
- Agreed, removed it until a suitable replacement can be found. A kalis or barong, perhaps? --Lazyhound 03:10, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] history
the philippines was called "maharlika" before the spanish came??? can anyone please veryfiy this. I never heard the word used to call the country before the spanish came. Cloudhand 05:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] spelling
The spelling "Matrial Arts attire" is a mistake, no? P0M 06:20, 7 September 2005 (UTC) Could be worse... ever see someone get confused between "martial arts" and "marital arts"? I'll go ahead and edit it. Thank you for the heads-up. -Fuzzy 14:36, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
