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[edit] Messy

This article is as messy as all hell and all those credits are unnecassary.

Problem solved Tredanse 04:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Production crew

It looks like someone's just copy/pasted the entire credits of the film, possibly from IMDb. Is all this necessary? I've never seen another Wikipedia article for a film with every crew member credited.

Problem solved Tredanse 04:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I SAW THE PRESCREENING OF ERAGON!!!!

I added a section on the "Book versus Movie" (it needs some editing). The Movie was AWSOME! Granted, Arya was wimpified, and some entire cities had to left out, but what they decided to leave in was great. They kept the part about Eragon being a hunter (*gasp*) and that is sure to hack off a couple people - but not me. BTW, Eragon only looks like a pretty boy in the pictures, they did a good job on him. Also, Saphira was adorable as a drakelet. She was very much a hunter, and the voice they picked for her was easy to get used to. And most importantly they kept her sarcasm! Granted, they sped up her growth by a bit but that was nescesary in order to make the movie only two hours long. And what worthwhile hours they were!

Ok, I'll have to categorize my comments because I could write an essay on Saphira alone. So I am going to put in a few good words about the action and then a the very, very few disapointments about the movie.

The action was great. The flight sequences were so awsome I simply cannot describe it with words. There wasn't a lot of Arya and Ajihad fighting, but that was nescesary in order to keep the rating between PG and PG-13 (thank goodness). Come to thing of it, there wasn't a lot of blood and gore. The fights were quite 'clean' if such a word could apply to a battle. It wasn't at all like the last battles in Lord of the Rings. So remember folks, go watch the movie because if it makes enough money at the box office, they will make a sequel! Sorry if I bore you with my enthusiasm.

As for the downsides, they aren't downsides if you know in advance the movie will deviate from the book. Goodbye Angelina, you got your 15 seconds of acting as well as her dress which had whatlooked like 15 pounds of gold. Wheres Solembum? Why do Murtagh and Galbatwix have American accents, while everybody else sounds more like the British (my Mom caught that last one, I didn't notice). And they wimpified Arya. And got rid of the dwarves. Don't worry, they will probably introduce a dwarf city and introduce the werecat in the sequel. So if they don't make a sequel its your fault for not having a good time at the movie. It was still fabulous, you just have to watch it as if you had't read the books. Paolini did too good of a job - both as an extra as a dead soldier (which one was he?) - and as a writer - for capturing all of his ideas on film to be possible.

 I am 15 years old, live in Santa Monica, and can be reached by your posts below my post here in the Eragon Film discussion page.   In case you are wondering, the only thing I was bribed with to tell you this is getting to see the prescreening.  If you have any questions or comments, post away.  Since I haven't figured out how to register into Wikipedia, I will put an "-Joshua" after all my comments.

PSS I am going to bring lots of cookies for the Hapkido instructor who got the prescreenings for us.

I just removed your comments. While it's certainly nice that you enjoyed the film, this is not a website for you to write your own essay/review about the film; we only include reviews that are written by reliable critical sources, not users. I would suggest taking your ideas to a more appropriate website where user reviews are encouraged- two places to start would be www.imdb.com or www.rottentomatoes.com.
also, on a side note, please don't write in all-caps. It's considered to be shouting and rude. Cheers! --DarthBinky 18:33, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the advice. But why shouldn't I write about Eragon? Wikipedia is there to be edited by everyone! Its not a secret club or hight status society. Also, you failed to remove my comments. Thanks. And although I have posted comments in support of Paolini, I have only removed one comment and even that one didn't have a rescource. I'm not like the folks who put up "YOU SUCK!" on the Atlantic Records article. (Which is now closed to editing due to vandalism) - Joshua
I never said it was a secret club. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan page for you (or me, or anyone else) to write their own review of the movie/book. We are supposed to provide sources for what is in the article- that is, we take things from newspaper or magazine articles, or reliable websites, and put them into the article. We don't write our own stuff- that is original research, which is a no-no. I only removed your review from the article (and from the book's article)- I didn't change what you wrote on the talk pages.
Another side note about talk pages- it's considered bad form to alter what other people write on talk pages. Talk pages are also not meant to be a place for you to argue about whether or not the book (or film) is good or bad- they are supposed to be where you discuss how to make the actual article better.
I would also add that it might be a good idea to register- then someone will post a welcome message for you on your own talk page, which will have links to Wikipedia's guidelines and policies. It'll help you understand better how things run, so when I talk about "original research", you'll know what I'm saying. It's very easy to do- just hit the link in the upper right that says "Sign in/Create an account" and follow the directions. :) Cheers! --DarthBinky 22:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, hows this. I put in an article about just the changes from the book to the movie, with a slightly positive tone. Good enough for now? - Joshua
There's already a section that says that stuff. Second, it's supposed to be neutral in tone- not positive or negative. --DarthBinky 17:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stills for Eragon

I recently found some new pictures for Eragon here:[1], such as a scene of Galbatorix and Durza, and the rest of the cast of Eragon in costumes (Eragon, Ajihad, Brom, Durza(!), Arya, and pretty much everyone else, save urgals, Garrow, and Roran) If someone could upload these pics, the article would be tons better. Thanx! By the way, on Chris Egan and Edward Speeler's articles, go to Google for pics. I'll be adding similar discussion topics on the Pirates of the Caribbean 2 article, and possibly other recent movie articles. (The reason I'm doing this is because my computer won't upload pics). It really would be great if you people would.

Good stills, the problem is with copyright issues though. Are those free to use anywhere? We need to be careful. - Tredanse 05:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
(oh, on closer inspection, none of those are new and actually are available in better quality on other websites, eg Shurtugal.com) - Tredanse 05:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, Put them on there, then. I don't care where u get them. If an unofficial website has it, I doubt there are any copyright issues. But, just to be sure, list ur sources.
Maybe. I think the only relevant one would be the picture of the cast, in costume. I have a good quality scan of that, I might upload it soon. - Tredanse 01:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
But its such a good shot of Durza and Galbatorix. But, as long as at least one is on the page, it doesn't matter to me.
The one of all the characters in costume will be useful for the Cast section, but general film stills aren't really that important in a Wikipedia article. - Tredanse 21:38, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Just upload the cast shot please!
I found a sort of trailer, should I put on the link? I don't know about the copyright of it:

[edit] Trailer

I saw that trailer also; I haven't been able to watch it, and I was wondering how they got it, if Fox says they're going to release a trailer in the future.


Speaking of the trailer, the second paragraph (explaining the delay) took me a while to parse. It could probably use a little bit a rewrite.

[edit] Quotes

Shouldn't the quotes be on WikiQuote, and not here? Lutherjw 00:51, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I moved them--Nimrod1234 03:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Roran and Garrow

Don't these two characters have portrayers? Why aren't their portrayers listed in their articles? Are the filmmakers planning to leave them out? They'd better as heck not!! 4.158.60.201 14:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Im So Freakin Excited. I was Afraid They Would Ruin It With Horrible Charecters. I Just Hope they get Saphira's charecter right

Sapphira's character is fine. But I also am worried about this lack of characters. I'm not sure what you mean by "Horrible Characters"; those are Very Important Characters. 4.158.210.11 11:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, Roran and Garrow did just fine. They were very true to their personalities.- Joshua

They are in the movie, acording to imdb.com

Dreyesbo 21:21, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 9th poster

I've heard from a fansite that the 9th poster is a hoax, shouldn't it be removed?--Spyderchan 01:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deviations from the book

Someone else than me thinks that this secton should be added from now? We alredy know some.

Dreyesbo 23:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Should a note be added to the "Differences from the Book" section that Galbatorix never appears in the first book in any capacity and yet has been added to the film? Finnicks 06:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Images

I have removed most of the images in the article. This includes all the images of the variation of posters and individual character screenshots. Even though I agree that this images add visual attraction to the article, it looks like nothing more than that and therefore fails Fair use criteria #8, that copyrighted images must only be uploaded and used if "The material must contribute significantly to the article..." and they "must not serve a purely decorative purpose". Unfortunately I feel the images are used agains't this policy and I can do nothing more than follow it. Thank you for your understanding. - Tutmosis 23:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't upload the character images into this page; just onto the page of the character and in some cases the actor. I do understand why the poster images were removed, however, I also believe they have some relevance to the article. A poster is promotional material, just as a trailer. Should we not remove the trailer links also? I feel they show the progress made on advertising and the history of the film's production... Lutherjw 01:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I dont think they "significantly" add the the article, even if its to illustrate promotional work. I left one poster in the article because it does illustrate the subject and it makes sense to have it. Also if you wish to illustrate 'production' a much better image would be a photo of the film being filmed. It's an accepted guideline that copyrighted images have to be kept to the bare minimum and only be added if they really add to the article. Ofcourse you are welcome to seek a second opinion from an experience user if you still unsure if my edit was proper. I will accept full responsibility if I did something wrong. Anyway thanks for taking this calmly and professionally, since in a lot of cases people take such matters very personally. :) - Tutmosis 15:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fansites

I'm removing the fansites and the C&A sites because they aren't helping the article. I'm cutting down the "external links" section should be cut down to official links, imdb link, and rotten tomatoes link, because that's what most movie articles have.--Spyderchan 03:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Galbatorix

Should a section be added (or the "Changes from the Book" section be updated) to illustrate that Galbatorix is completely absent from the first book, but shown in the film? Finnicks 19:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)