Talk:Embryo drawings
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- Embryo drawings - Written as if Ernst Haeckel was the only one who drew embryos. Creationist POV, complete with quote mining. In stasis for 3 years. Phlebas 19:43, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- Tried to fix it up. Could do with some clean-up by someone better at Wiki than me. Also still needs some fleshing out. --Mintie 01:48, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Terribly POV. Any undergraduate biology student draws embryos, like they appear in the microscope slides. Phlebas 17:18, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- Made an attempt to fix it up. Could still do with some work. For those with the time, I suggest the following site is a great place to start: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/wells/haeckel.html --Mintie 01:50, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
There are still lots of problems. This article implies that recapitualtion theore was created by Haeckel and that few others held it. Neither is true. It does not indicate the place of haeckel's admittedly inaccurate drawings in the histroy of science, and does not indicate that the professional and poipular impressions of them were quite different. It also does not indiactate that there hade been many comparitive drawuings both before and after haeckel, although his set became part of the textbook culture for a long time. The quote from S.J. Gould is not sourced. Actually someone reading his essayu on this subject has most of the resources needed to do a better job on this article. DES 22:05, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] correct picture?
is the image on this page really drawn by Ernst Haeckel or instead cited by Von Baers (1928?)? The "schematized" (is this really such a non-scientific technique?) drawings in Haeckels's "Schöpfungsgeschichte" (Berlin 1879, between pages 272 and 273) look quite different.
- Yes, the picture shown is from the 1828 von-Baer book "Über Entwickelungsgeschichte der Thiere". See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Baer_embryos.png . Haeckel used this drawing several times in his books, sometimes slightly modified or reordered. The "schematized" pictures in the "Schöpfungsgeschichte" look very different. 145.254.69.235 16:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Still terribly POV
Hardly better than a year ago. Will someone who knows Enlish and History of Science at a nearly-native level bring this to order? Alexei Kouprianov 14:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
