User talk:Elisabeth Rieping

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[edit] Regarding mammary cancer metastasis in dogs and cats

First off, let me be the first to welcome you to Wikipedia. I enjoyed the rewrite you did on mouse mammary tumor virus. I only came across it because it was on my watchlist for some minor edits I had done some time ago. Anyway, I removed the statement about canine and feline mammary tumors because metastasis to the bones is rare and not typical, although it can happen. The link you provided said that there were only a few reported cases in cats. So I only disagree with bone metastasis being typical in dogs and cats with mammary tumors. Thanks for the link, by the way, it was very interesting, and I will now look more closely for evidence of mammary cancer in older limping cats. --Joelmills 21:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

• Hi, Joelmills! Nice to hear from you! It is rare to meet someone interested in mouse mammary tumors.

I thought one reason that bone metastases are not reported very often, might be that scintigramms are not done regularely in canine or feline breast cancer.

In mice that ist different. There is not even one model with real bone metastases. To optain bone metastases in mice you have to inject tumor cells into the heart of the animal.

That ist a complete different situation compared with natural breast cancer.

Of cause I do not know all modells of mice breast cancer. But until now I did not find only one with bone metastases and I looked for it. --Elisabeth Rieping 16:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Ironically, last week I saw a dog with a bone tumor, which I referred to an oncologist for treatment. He said it was most likely metastatic mammary carcinoma, which makes it the first case I have ever seen. --Joelmills 02:00, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Dear Joemills. That ist strange. There are numbers on breast tumors in dogs in Norway which say that more than half of the dogs have breast tumors. Probably that are not all cancers. The author was a veterinäry callde Moe.

I found the reference it in a paper concerning former contact between women suffering from breast cancer and dogs. The authors looked for an infektion. The paper was called: Do dogs harbour risk factors for human breast cancer? And here you find the summary: [1] Although I am not convinced by this hypothesis, I could not find a fault in it.

That's interesting that there may be a connection between owning a dog and developing breast cancer, but I think that they meant that 53 percent of dogs with breast tumors have carcinomas. Either that or they have one huge cancer cluster in Norway. Even in non-spayed dogs here the rate is not 50 percent for breast tumors, and statistically only half of those are carcinomas. --Joelmills 20:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello Joelmills. i know the paper of Moe. It is on breast tumors in dog. Benigne tumors and cancers. I know the paper on having contact with dogs and breast cancer, too. I looked on it very carefully and I could not find a fault.Elisabeth Rieping 18:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)--