User talk:Ekajati/Archive 1

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[edit] Welcome

Hello, Ekajati/Archive 1, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Newcomers help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] My pleasure!

Happy editing! Kukini 04:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry...I don't know how to add that...although it is only two clicks away when logged on...(1) "my watchlist", then (2) "display and edit the complete list" Kukini 05:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
There probably is, but I just don't know how. If you find out how, please share with me. Kukini 05:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] German-English translation

Thanks for helping to translate an article listed at Wikipedia:German-English translation requests - it's greatly appreciated, and it would be lovely if you come back and do some more translating. If you do, please move the article listing to the Recently completed translations – proofreading section to make sure it's proofread. Thanks! Saint|swithin 07:42, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to mix you up! What you added is very similar to the German article. Saint|swithin 07:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tantra

Since you've contributed to the Tantra article recently, you might want to check the latest discussion on Talk:Tantra and give your feedback on a suggested refactoring of the article... -999 (Talk) 15:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] WP:CIV

Please note WP:CIV, as it is incredibly rude to put an insult into an Edit summary field.

Davidkevin 22:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Vajrayana

Thanks for your concern. I am sorry about the fact that I did not discuss it before changing. Now that you have called me to discuss matters, here is what I have to say:-

  • The transfer of Tantra technique and Esoteric Transmission to new page was done to make the main article on Vajrayana easier to comprehend not to delete the facts.
  • Tantra techniques has been moved to Tantra techniques (Vajrayana) hoping that it clears the "misguidance" which it created.
  • The sequence in the opening statement which is the only part altered from the text in Vajrayana (on moving) has been changed.
  • The text in the articles Tantra Techniques and Esoteric transmission are copied and pasted from their section in Vajrayana. So, I dont have any problem if you modify these pages on the basis of your knowledge without discussion but within the limits of copyright.

In my opinion, the comprehension and readability of the article Vajrayana has been diminished by these factors:-

  • the "Also known as Tantric Buddhism, Mantrayana, Tantrayana, Esoteric Buddhism, Diamond Vehicle, True Words Sect, or ι‡‘ε‰›δΉ˜ Jin gang sheng in Chinese.

" which can fit into a simple bracket rather than that huge space.

  • The etymology and the sub-schools which can fit into a separate heading being listed in the main introduction
  • Lack of general features with stress on distinguishing features. I think a person of your caliber can list the general features as well
  • Elaborate explanation of Esoteric Transmission and Tantra techniques of Vajrayana which, I believe, can be expanded into full articles. Two separate articles for the above mentioned features with a summarized form of them in the main article and the link to the respective main article can be placed.
  • Lack of generalized history

I found one statement a bit offensive in your message "...While your Esoteric transmission article might have arguable merits, I believe that your Tantra techniques article...". This is wikipedia, mate! I believe there is no your or mine articles here. This is a common ground of humanity in its best intellectual form. If you find something wrong here, correct it. --Eukesh 16:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong to revert articles to get rid of missing citation tags or other tags without fixintg the problem - you use reverting as your main method

This should not be done. It is a very poor way of dealing with an article's problems by just making the tags go away without fixing anything in the article. Timmy12 12:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Please Ekajat be a little bit more moderate and don't go through the articles with rush and speed without acknowledging what was yet done and discussed at the talk pages. Some pages you changed in large are the result of the work of many; you have not the right to change as you like without respectng the yet happened discussions. All the editors invested a huge amount of time. The rules are also not for misusing. Some informations are common and accepted by the opposite party and the many editors too, so if there was a conclusion/compromise by all the editors you can not just ignore it. Thank you for visiting first the talk page before makeing big changes, especially with all the controversial articles. --Kt66 19:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:LIVING is a non-negotiable policy. It requires a certain reputableness and reliableness for all sources used. Removal of negative information improperly cited is immune from the three revert rule. I did discuss on talk page, you simply do not understand the seriousness and non-negotiability of WP:LIVING. Ekajati 19:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Nice to meet you. Please don't tell only phrases, please give concrete points what "is negative information" or "improperly cited" when you are doing your changes. Thank you very much for your consideration, Regards, --Kt66 20:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] copyright

Please go to the admin, it is good to have some assistence. I am doubting if this is the case that the copyrights are violated... Thank you for your effort--Kt66 20:30, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you :-) --Kt66 20:47, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the axe

Dear Ekajati, I would strongly recommend to give DETAILLED explanations on the talk pages and don't misuse the WP guideline to go through the articles like a lumberjack. Just to remove complete passages and add your standard statement: rv per WP:LIVING, inadequately sourced negative material CANNOT remain on the page while you search for sources) is a kind of Vandalism. You have to give detailled proofs especially because you are active with many controversial articles which were discussed by many at the tp. --Kt66 21:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Three revert rule

I've mention this rule to you before, but please be aware that you have violated the three revert rule which may subject you to being blocked from editing. Ekajati 21:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you I have still reported us. It is my first experience to have that many difficulties with an editor regarding WP articles and being unable to communicate it. It is a nice challange, I will leave the topic for a month behind me and see later how the admins reacted and what the articles are doing. I asked also other Editors to look on the GMR article. So take care. --Kt66 21:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

to inform you: I wrote to an admin [here] Good bye for a month, --Kt66 21:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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