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[edit] Aimo Fontenot

Hello. I'm signing in regards to the possible deletion of the Aimo Fontenot article. He is not on IMDB because they don't track actors in Seychelles, but I did find a post referring to him on the boards. http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/thread/40304323

Thank you for reconsidering your vote. :]

(Laceymichelle 04:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC))

Don't mean to bother you here again, but I'd just like to point out the fact that IMDB does not list all of the extras in movies. THe article did not say he had big roles, just cameos, but that he is one of the biggest that Seychelles has. Which isn't saying much. Once again, thank you for your quick response.

(Laceymichelle 03:44, 8 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Cleanup desk

Hi. I put an unassigned Norway-related article on your cleanup desk. Good luck!  :) —Wknight94 (talk) 21:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thankls for being bold but....

Thanks for being bold, but read the AfD notices first. "You must not rename the article unless you make sure the page still links to the discussion page. This is most easily done by creating a redirect from "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New page name" to "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old page name". It's usually best to do so immediately before moving the article page, since this ensures no links are broken, even if somebody visits a page in the middle of the changes. You should not turn the article into a redirect. A functioning redirect will overwrite the AFD notice. It may also be interpreted as an attempt to "hide" the old content from scrutiny by the community.". In the spirit of the AfD process, I have asked a admin to fix the redirect, sorry! cc to AfD discussion page. Mike (T C) 05:50, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I would like you to reconsider your vote

The specified Armenian timelines are unique contributions of the author. As they are collection of dates and events, and it is the organization of the dates makes it unique to this author. There is no page on the internet that organized these events within these categories. This set of pages are UNIQUE and not copyvios. Thanks for your attention. --OttomanReference 18:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tanya Hansen

You mentioned at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tanya Hansen that Tanya Hansen is "a household name in Norway". That makes me suspect that she has been mentioned in news articles, books, and/or other publications. Can you cite any such references in order to bolster the case for her notability? Thanks for any assistance. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:35, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I've found one here [1]. It would be great if Eivind could provide translation and then comment in the AfD debate. From what I can tell (although i've never spoken Norwegian), she's considered the greatest Norwegian porn star of all time. --Marcus 09:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
I quote "TH is not a porn star that we can measure in popularity with the other pornstars we cover in these pages, at least not in an international context. But she is the biggest, Norwegian porn star ever. Some say the first, but Sasha Gabor was the first. The question is if we'll ever she those two do a scene together." Do you want me to translate the hole shebang? oh ; "Hun er pr. i dag en kvinne største delen av Norges befolkning har hørt om" - "She is today a woman the majority of Norway's population has heard of..." Take that to court. Eivind 09:30, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protected names

Hey, I saw your vote at the Bakkeheim AfD and was wondering if you'd be willing to start the article on protected names, since you seem to know about it. If you wouldn't mind, I think it would be really interesting to find out about this, and it might just get a mention on the Did you know feature on the front page. Thanks! -Mysekurity 01:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking the same, but I'm unsure whether the article should be about Norwegian name law or Protected names international (both?). Any sujestions? Thanks. Eivindspeak! 01:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I think either would be interesting, basically whatever you feel most comfortable and knowledgable writing. The great thing is that people can edit and modify as they please, and it will hopefully become a fledgling page with a little care. If you have time to write either, that would be most appreciated. Best of luck and thanks, Mysekurity 01:53, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Well I'm going for Norwegian name law. Maybe I'll find some info to put into Protected names, but it seem like to general subject for me. Thanks for the input. Eivindspeak! 01:59, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good. I can help you with some of the organization and such, if you would wish. Good luck, and thanks. -Mysekurity 03:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football AID 19 March - 25 March

Thank you for participating in the Football AID vote this week.

European Football Championship has been selected as this week's collaboration. Please do help in working to improve it.

[edit] Hokkani boro

No, it is definetively not a "hoax". It is gypsy language (they have an own language). I try to find the website again, but it contains some weird data. Hokkani=trick (ever heard of a magican called hokani?). "boro"=great. I do not know what you mean "wikipedia standards". 1st letter is spelled BIG (capitalized), so called chicago-style. It is clearly a "stub", i do not know much more about the topic.

Probably you can ask a native gypsy, before you call a thing you do not know "hoax"? Thanks for your (continiued) communication and constructive critics. I do not think my "user page" looks a "hoax"? Neither my superstition page. I made it "neat", compiling it from various rather weird sources.

regards, alex.

EDIT: It has been revised, and thus verified for the existence of the term, by another editor. I do not hold further claims, however information about ancient things easily vanishes. Every bit of data helps.User:Akidd_dublin 20060319

[edit] water melon

I have added some explanation at my own user page, i hope in suitable (understandable) formulation. I do not claim to edit it, more i hope for the original author. alex 15:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WATB

Hyggelig å treffe deg! I made a case for non-deletion of the WATB article here: [2] I hope that you might reconsider and remove it from the delete queue. If not, let's talk about it. Thanks, venn. --AStanhope 12:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Hi again. I just discovered that I was able to remove the "prod" tag. I did so pending further discussion on the article's Talk page.[3] I do hope you'll join the discussion. Thanks! --AStanhope 13:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFD

Hi! For all your closing needs, see Wikipedia:deletion process. Non-admins should only close debates that have an overwhelming majority in favor of keeping. If any at all, some people may say. And "speedy keep" should be reserved to admins. But, you know, if you continue your participation over the next 3-4 months you might become one. Punkmorten 17:19, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Foglerapz

I noticed you slapped the AfD on this article before you went to Prod. Just to remind you, AfD is only for contested deletions. Thanks for your hard work in battling trash on WP. - the.crazy.russian (T) (C) (E) 14:30, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's the point of a Prod. Everybody enjoy corroboration, esp. when they're 99.8% sure. Prod allows anyone to dispute for five days, and then, even if noone touches it, when a prod becomes ripe, the reviewing admin will still take a hard look at it and won't delete it automatically. So no worries. - the.crazy.russian (T) (C) (E) 14:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't insult contributors

I am taking you at your word, as posted on your user page. If you are interested in "doing the right thing," you will avoid insulting contributors by making assumptions about them based on your own biases. I am referring to your comment at the articles for deletion for The CIA and September 11 (book). Thanks for wanting to do the right thing. It's not always easy. And please don't call me "boy." Ande B 05:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Eivind, you are certainly true to your word and spirit. Thank you for caring enough to not just explain what your intentions were but to even apologize. I regret I misunderstood your meaning. It is way too easy to make such mistakes when all we have are computer screens to talk to. I wish you well. Ande B 05:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello information

There is more albums to stub and categorize at Colosseum (band). Some people say that articles about albums by some groups aren't important enough for wikipedia and they put them for deletion. Isn't wikipedia said to be a place to collect knowledge, and art too... Anyway, See ya! Death2 19:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

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[edit] Thanks for the revision.

Thank you very much for your revisions to the Pile driver stub. It is greatly appreciated.

Cheers. Folajimi 07:30, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia survey

Hi. I'm doing a survey of Wikipedia editors as part of a class research project. It's quick, anonymous, and the data will be made available to the Wikipedia community later this month. Would you like to take part? More info here. Thanks! Nonplus 00:00, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi. I am sorry to bother you but I wondered if you might be prepared to take another look at my RfA nomination. The main reason that I ask this is because there has previously been some confusion as to my talk count and I also wonder if there might have been some confusion regarding the duration of my contributions. I would also like to comment on some of the concerns raised by others, which I have discussed on the nomination page, but which you may not be aware of.

Firstly with regard to my talk contributions and the duration of my contributions. I just wanted to clarify that I do have substantial numbers of contributions in the user talk namespace although significantly less in the main article and wikipedia talk namespace, so I do have a good history of interactions with other users but primarily on their user page (furthermore I have a good track record of warning vandals - something is often lacking for many vandal fighters both admin and non-admin). Regarding the duration of my contributions, I just wanted to clarify that I have now been contributing for 15 months in total and, although I have had a few "lean" months when my focus have been outside of Wikipedia, I had almost 2000 contributions before February and there have been 9 months when I have made 100+ contributions.

WIth regards to the concerns raised by other, which aren't covered by the above, they seem to relate primarily to my lack of contributions to the article talk and wikipedia talk namespaces and what this says about my community involvement and exposure to process. Firstly I would like to say that I don't think my contributions in this area are particularly low when compared to other current nominees and recently created admins who are/were heavily supported (I have provided some details on this in the comments section of the nomination) - as I said in the comments section this is not to say "they are supported so why aren't I", rather it is just to provide a benchmark to compare how common my contribution pattern is. Secondly I would like to point out that I do not typically revert vandalism in these namespaces which I believe play a significant part in the number of these contributions for vandal-fighter editors (especially in the article talk namespace). Finally I would just like to reiterate my personal opinion that, regarding edits to Wikipedia talk, contributing and understanding are different things (i.e. I do understand the policys and guidelines even though I have not actively contributed to them). With regard to my community involvement, I do have a fair number of edits to the mian Wikipedia namespace and also the user talk namespace as previously mentioned.

I understand that contacting you in this way may well be considered "campaigning" but I want to assure you that I am driven by good practical intentions rather than ego. As you will be aware, I am primarily a vandal fighter and I feel that the admin tools will allow me to far better serve the community in this area. Specifically I come across a lot of situations were there are very few editors on RC patrol and a lot of vandalism is being missed, this is compounded by the fact that AIAV is often not being heavily monitored during the same periods meaning that blocks are delayed and a lot of time is spent reverting vandals who have already received a final warning. This extra time spent reverting known vandals obviously mean that much new vandalism is missed - with the obvious effect on the quality and credibility of Wikipedia.

I would like to sum by saying that I feel I could make good use of the tools and that I have never done anything to raise concerns that I would misuse them. Cheers TigerShark 20:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hello Eivind F Øyangen/Archive 1: Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. I hope I can perform at the standards expected for administrators. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodego talk 01:16, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi EivindFOyangen. Just a quick note to thank you for voting on my RfA, which recently passed 62/13/6. I want to let you know that I will do my best to address all concerns that were raised during the RfA. I will also do my very best live up to this new responsibility and to serve the community, but please let me know if I make any mistakes or if you have any feedback at all on my actions. Finally, if there is anything that I can assist you with - please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers TigerShark 04:06, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ecky-becky

hi Eivind -- I am removing your prod tag, since I had already prod'ed this article and it has been removed, and prods shouldn't be re-added. I'm debating whether to bring it to AfD. it's not a hoax (see [4]), but it is a dic-def, and not even in English; however, it's an interesting one. I haven't decided, but would lean towards deletion. what do you think? bikeable (talk) 20:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the AfD tag! must have been an edit conflict; I have seen recently a few cases where things changed at the same time are not handled right. I'm quite sure that the line I snipped was only the prod tag, not the AfD tag -- sorry! best, bikeable (talk) 23:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

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[edit] Paskikelva redirection

Hei!

Intrigued that you chose to redirect Paskikelva without discussion.

The naming conventions in Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway would suggest the more commonly used form be the accepted one for the Wikipedia. Since Veiatlas Norge uses Paskikelva, I’d have gone to that form as default based on the guidance. But, this being the Wikipedia, we can change the guideline if we can figure out something that makes more sense.

We've used the Sami form and the Norwegian form inconsistently. Usually depends on who enters the article first. Makes for a strange pastiche of article titles, which we should figure out how to clean up.

Since you prefer the Sami form, you've almost assuredly given the topic of when to use the Sami form more thought than I have. Can I ask you to propose a guideline for when one uses Sami versus Norwegian? We can discuss here (on your talk page - I'll monitor it). When we get to agreement, we can post our recommendation on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway page & get others with an interest to weigh in.

Tusen takk - Williamborg 18:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

(copying from User_talk:Williamborg)
Hi! Regarding the redirect. I don't really have a preference for the Sami name to be honest, but the the Paatsjoki one was a bit longer, and contained all the information from Norwegian-named one. I was just being lazy mergeing the two. Since Veiatlas seems to be the guideline, unless there's a English name, I'll make Paatsjoki the redirect. And I'll take a look at the template for you. Thanks for the vigilant eye. --Eivindt@c 00:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Is it Pasvikelva or Paskikelva. --Eivindt@c 00:41, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
After some research it appears that Paatsjoki is 2 years old, a redirect called Pasvikelva is almost a year old, and your article is one day old, this makes me reluctant to just change around the whole thing. Maybe we should try to find out the Russian name for it, and call it a tie-breaker. Eivindt@c 00:49, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Agree that we not change the article name too quickly. But I'd prefer a more logical criterion than - someone with a Finnish orientation wrote about it first, so that's the name. So I followed up on your Russian tiebreaker suggestion; this river lies between Russia and Norway, but originates in Finalnd so all three do have claim.
The Russian Wiki on the region (quoted below) is not any help:
Редактирование Мурманская область (секция) (Murmansk Oblast Section)
Географическое положение и климат (Geographical positions and climate)
Область находиться на Кольском полуострове большей частью за Северным полярным кругом. На юге она граничит с республикой Карелия, на западе граничит с Норвегией и Финляндией. Омывается Белым и Баренцевым морями. (The Oblast lies on the northern part of the Kolsk (Kola) penninsula, to the greatest part above the artic circle. On the south it borders with Karelia, on the west by Norway and Finland. On the North it is bounded by the White and Barents seas.
And a further search of the Russian Wiki pages gave no other indication of the river name on the boundary.
So then to my copy of Географический Атлас России or Russian Geographic Atlas, published in Moscow in 1997. Turns out it provides no name for this river on the boundary.
So I'll ask my daughter - a Slavicist & the keeper of my highest resolution Russian language map - whether it appears on that map (or whether she can find other resources to provide the Russian name). More later...
Am putting a copy of this on the Category:Rivers of Norway talk page in hope that others might be able to help.
Cheers - Williamborg 02:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
The Chech Wikipedia gives the russian name as Паз (Paz) [5], this ofcourse doesn't help us at all. Eivindt@c 03:17, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, at least I laughed aloud. Hope someone can suggest a correct principle. Williamborg 03:24, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Norwegian National Park template

And, since you are a member of the cleanup taskforce, perhaps you can help in another area. The Norwegian National Park template still includes Gressåmoen National Park, which has since been incorporated into Blåfjella-Skjækerfjella (in 2004). To see the template, go to the bottom of the Blåfjella-Skjækerfjella page. Would you know how to correct this template? Williamborg 18:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC) -- Fixed it! --Eivindt@c 00:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Great! How did you make this change? Williamborg 02:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
All you have to do is go to Template:National_Parks_of_Norway and edit it just like the other pages on wikipedia. Some templates have complex codes, but this one didn't, so it wasn't hard. --Eivindt@c 02:58, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Now I see. Thnx - Williamborg
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