Talk:Eight Banners

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The table indicate Left Right, Upper Lower for each banner. What significance do those labels have? If significant, a paragraph should be added to explain what they are. If not, the two columns should be removed from the table. Kowloonese 22:17, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

"Although the banners were instrumental in the Qing Empire takeover of China proper in the 17th century from the Ming Empire, they began to atrophy in the 18th century, and were shown to be ineffective for modern warfare by the second half of the 19th century." I'd love to know exactly how the system was used to the advantage of the Machu. A citation to allow follow-up reading would also be nice.