Talk:EgyptAir Flight 990
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NOTE: The text on this page was taken from the Egyptair article. WhisperToMe 22:27, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Anyone noticed that the numerology and conspiracy sections are significant longer than the facts presented? --Andylkl 09:39, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Is that Numerologic portion NPOV? It certainly doesn't seem so to me -- but that's probably because I see it as irrelevant.
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[edit] Numerology
The numerology section has no citations (particularly for the Atta quote) and appears to be original research. Is there any reason to keep this section? ElBenevolente 05:16, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I have removed most of the uncited numerology section. If anyone wishes to add, please provide source material. ElBenevolente 16:08, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Re-adding the material. It is linked to from http://www.glgorman.com, which is a website run by one of the candidates for Governor in the California recall election of 2003. The candidate, Mr. Gorman, was also a candidate for Mayor of San Bruno, Ca in 1991 when Mr. Jack Coles of San Jose claimed that Northern California would have a major quake on or about September 11, 1991. Attempts to obtain official documentation that the information regarding Al-Qaeda numerology was in the possession of the government is likely impossible, because of Sandy Bergers either accidental or deliberate removal and destruction of documents related to threat assessments and strategies for interdiction and public policy on dislosure with respect to the millenium problem.
Lazarus666 18:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yedah, but so what? It has no clear connection to the flight. You could arguably start a page about these theories and how some people believe they apply to certain events such as this, but it doesn't belong here; what we need are more facts. --ProhibitOnions 22:03, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)
I removed the whole numerology section. Some searching on Google ([1] for example) shows that almost all the pages discussing this are either copies of the Wikipedia EgyptAir_Flight_990 page (this page..) or cite Wikipedia as their source. As already said by the Prohibitited Onions in the previous comment, what we need are more facts :-) -- Pepijn Koster 21:33, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Conspiracy Theories
Why is this particular conspiracy theory given space in the article? It is probably one of many associated with this crash. Stating things like "it is not known if the NTSB investigate this possibility" is equivalent to "it is not known if the NTSB checked whether there were any Martians on board" it doesn't add to the information in the article. I'm in favour of removing the section on conspiracy theories or replacing it with a more general description of the fact that there are many conspiracy theories and disputes over the cause of the accident (why give space to the conspiracy theories but not the theories of the Egyptian authorities?). --Lawrennd 10:06, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- I agree, fancy performing the changes? Pepijn Koster 23:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] stats?
- The alternative theories proposed by Egyptian authorities were tested by the NTSB, and none were found to match the facts.
Would be nice for the article to list the most prominent ones, or at least give a number. This was a very controversial topic in Egypt, and probably remains so. Tempshill 22:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hamdi Hanafi Taha
No mention of the Egyptian pilot who approached the UK for asylum, saying that Batouti had crashed deliberately to have his revenge, in a "if this is my last flight, it is his/theirs too" way, and no mention either of him later also saying that all EgyptAir air pilots were brought together and given the investigation results without further comment - implying that the crash had been caused by Batouti - and then being told to not talk about that, not even among each other. All that was mentioned in the Air Crash Investigation episode on this flight. --Luckz 02:24, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
