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[edit] Temp

This page is just temporary, WWE has not announced that this will be the name of the December ECW PPV, it's only been "reported" by sites like PWInsider. TJ Spyke 00:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

It is now though and the poster looks quite real Jackster608 15:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I know, but when I wrote that comment it was not officiall since WWE never said anything about it. TJ Spyke 19:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Where was it announced that Big Show would face RVD at december to dismember? Jackster608 17:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

That was vandalism, no matches have been announced for the PPV yet. TJ Spyke 18:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding local commercials revealing Spoilers

This is a big issue that seems to attract a lot of vandalism to upcoming wrestling event articles. The problem being that random people deliberately add matches to the upcoming event's card that have supposedly been announced on commercials aired during RAW, Smackdown!, or ECW. Once these people are confronted about their additions of these spoilers, they tend to use the commercials as their source. The problem is that they do not seem to realize that these promos shown when a WWE broadcast goes off the air during commercials are actually only airing on specific local areas and are NOT in fact being shown nation wide. WWE (at times) unintentionally releases commercials and promos on future events, spoiling matches and sometimes even their outcomes, to the specific local media outlet. This is stupidly done to attract interest from fans in that local area and increase possible attendance and buyrate figures for the upcoming event. The most recent case being the Vengeance DX promo notable for being released in some areas roughly two months before the actual event took place. Only when matches are announced on-screen by talent or during the actual WWE broadcast and NOT during commercials can this sort of information NOT be considered a spoiler. Some may argue, "So what if they aren't shown nation wide, they were still released by World Wrestling Entertainment which means they are legit and therefore all matches spoiled have a right to be added to articles!" Now the problem with that simply is this... It is unencyclopedic. You see, what these people fail to realize is that Wikipedia is NOT, I repeat, NOT a Wrestling News site. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and therefore cannot provide spoilers on future history or events that have yet to be. Wikipedia is an internet encyclopedia, in other words, it's an ENCYCLOPEDIA. If you honestly feel the need to be an Internet Troll and add content spoiling what has yet to occur (in this case about wrestling), then please do so elsewhere such as... oh wow! ...a Wrestling News site! As best stated on Wikipedia Policy... "Before adding any sort of content, ask yourself what would a reader expect to find in an encyclopedia." ...and I highly doubt that you would be expecting to find out who will be in the main event at WrestleMania 100, even if you do happen to find a promo somewhere right now announcing it to be Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon's grandson. Content such as spoilers, rumors, and other nonsense will be removed on the spot for the reasons just explained. This content simply does not comply with Wikipedia's Policies and guidelines and the addition of it is considered vandalism. Once again, please do NOT add any sort of content that even you would know is a spoiler (spoiling future history and events that have yet to be} and unencyclopedic. If you do in fact feel the need to be an Internet Troll, please do so elsewhere and not on Wikipedia. Thank you for reading and I honestly do hope that this clears up any confusion over spoilers and why they are being removed. Thank you. -- bulletproof 3:16 20:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] November to Remember The Same?

I may be a Dee-Dee-Dee by asking this but is this like November to Remember but just like with a different Name? And Month? What I mean is are they replacing it back to its original name? If u dont understand me just give me the scoop!SUCK IT! 22:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

No, this was a different event. ECW had a tradition of naming most of their events. TJ Spyke 23:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dismembered in the Chamber

At an ECW show today in Milwaukee, Wis., ECW’s “Messiah” Paul Heyman declared that Rob Van Dam will, in fact, receive his ECW World Title opportunity at December to Dismember. However, Heyman also made the monumental announcement that RVD’s title match will take place in the first-ever Extreme Elimination Chamber.

RVD earned his chance at the championship last week in a Ladder Match and, as announced on ECW.com earlier this week, Van Dam selected ECW’s next pay-per-view on Dec. 3 as the setting for his title opportunity. However, the stipulations for that contest fall under Heyman’s own judgment.

Thus, ECW World Champion Big Show will defend his gold against five other Extremists within the lethal chamber structure. In addition to the Extreme Giant and RVD, the remaining four participants will be determined through a series of qualifying matches that will take place over the next few weeks – the first of which can be seen Tuesday night on ECW on Sci Fi.

The only thing more dangerous than the chamber itself will be the throng of hardcore competitors enclosed in its massive walls. Who will qualify for this unprecedented encounter? Exactly what awaits RVD, Big Show and the other Extremists at December to Dismember?

Tune in to ECW on Sci Fi to learn more about this unique and extreme event and be sure to catch December to Dismember on Dec. 3 on pay-per-view.

from WWE.com—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.111.110.149 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Spoilers

Wouldn't CM Punk and Test be considered a spoiler for the event. I thought wiki had soemthing where you are not to post people in a match unless it has already been on tv.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.188.117.8 (talk • contribs).

Yes they are spoilers, and thats why I remove them everytime someone adds them. TJ Spyke 22:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Is Cm punk and Test in the match?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.210.99.4 (talk • contribs).

The only people officially in the match right now are The Big Show, Rob Van Dam, and Sabu. TJ Spyke 00:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't you mean Sabu not CM Punk since his match is on next weeks ECW—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.188.117.8 (talk • contribs).

Yes, fixed it. Remember folks, no spoilers. TJ Spyke 21:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

MESSAGE TO TJ Spyke: PLEASE DON'T REMOVE THIS BECAUSE THESE ARE JUST PREDICTIONS FROM A NUTTY WRESTLING FANATIC IN GRADE 7! (Sunday Nov. 5/2006) Here's the deal for Elimination Chamber qualifying matches: Big Show is already ECW World Champion (Big Show) - Rob Van Dam def. Big Show in a ladder match (Rob Van Dam) - Sabu def. Kevin Thorn (Sabu) - CM Punk vs Mike Knox: I believe CM Punk will probably win (CM Punk) - Tommy Dreamer vs Test: I believe Test will win due to Heyman's interference or a squash match result (Test) - You can see, on the promotional poster, a singapore cane: It's probably Sandman (The Sandman)- That makes it: Big Show vs Rob Van Dam vs Sabu vs CM Punk vs Test vs The Sandman 24.57.39.138 23:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

But that doesnt mean Its going to happen, did not read bulletproofs post? This is a big issue that seems to attract a lot of vandalism to upcoming wrestling event articles. The problem being that random people deliberately add matches to the upcoming event's card that have supposedly been announced on commercials aired during RAW, Smackdown!, or ECW. Once these people are confronted about their additions of these spoilers, they tend to use the commercials as their source. The problem is that they do not seem to realize that these promos shown when a WWE broadcast goes off the air during commercials are actually only airing on specific local areas and are NOT in fact being shown nation wide. WWE (at times) unintentionally releases commercials and promos on future events, spoiling matches and sometimes even their outcomes, to the specific local media outlet. This is stupidly done to attract interest from fans in that local area and increase possible attendance and buyrate figures for the upcoming event. The most recent case being the Vengeance DX promo notable for being released in some areas roughly two months before the actual event took place. Only when matches are announced on-screen by talent or during the actual WWE broadcast and NOT during commercials can this sort of information NOT be considered a spoiler. Some may argue, "So what if they aren't shown nation wide, they were still released by World Wrestling Entertainment which means they are legit and therefore all matches spoiled have a right to be added to articles!" Now the problem with that simply is this... It is unencyclopedic. You see, what these people fail to realize is that Wikipedia is NOT, I repeat, NOT a Wrestling News site. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and therefore cannot provide spoilers on future history or events that have yet to be. Wikipedia is an internet encyclopedia, in other words, it's an ENCYCLOPEDIA. If you honestly feel the need to be an Internet Troll and add content spoiling what has yet to occur (in this case about wrestling), then please do so elsewhere such as... oh wow! ...a Wrestling News site! As best stated on Wikipedia Policy... "Before adding any sort of content, ask yourself what would a reader expect to find in an encyclopedia." ...and I highly doubt that you would be expecting to find out who will be in the main event at WrestleMania 100, even if you do happen to find a promo somewhere right now announcing it to be Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon's grandson. Content such as spoilers, rumors, and other nonsense will be removed on the spot for the reasons just explained. This content simply does not comply with Wikipedia's Policies and guidelines and the addition of it is considered vandalism. Once again, please do NOT add any sort of content that even you would know is a spoiler (spoiling future history and events that have yet to be} and unencyclopedic. If you do in fact feel the need to be an Internet Troll, please do so elsewhere and not on Wikipedia. Thank you for reading and I honestly do hope that this clears up any confusion over spoilers and why they are being removed. Thank you.

There now its explained and stop trying to put in SpoilersOverlordneo 01:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

24.57.39.138 00:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC) - THEY WEREN'T SPOILERS! THEY WERE PREDICTIONS...PREDICTIONS...PREDICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY DO YOU THINK I PUT THESE (((PREDICTIONS))) IN THE TALK/SPOILERS (I REPEAT SPOILERS!) SECTION. ALSO, WIKI IS THE ONLY SOURCE I CAN TALK BOUT WRESTLIN STUFF WITHOUT SIGNING UP. I don't feel comfortable giving out info. WIKIPEDIA IS A GOOD BOY for the no-signing-up-happy thing. Im kidding with the yelling. PS: I have enough sense to know not to put predictions/spoilers on the actual "December to Dismember" page, and I'm not trying to be an INTERNET TROLL! THEY WERE PREDICTIONS THAT COULD BE RIGHT...OR WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol happy days (TJSpyke, remove the "lol happy days" if you need to. I can't blame you if you do. LOL.)

I'll just add this. You couldn't know this was a match for the Extreme Elimination Chamber. It hasn't been said on the official website of ECW. Paul Heyman said it during the show that those matches are for the EEC. These are spoilers. I hate that. I know what is the problem, it is because it is taped. We don't see that on RAW wrestlers because it is live. The only website that you should trust for WWE pay-per-view articles is wwe.com and the show if you saw it on TV. That is really not cool to spoil it. Now, I think wikipedia shouldn't be read before the event is on TV. --205.151.6.33 17:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protected

I got this page semiprotected because of the vandalism in the past couple of days. Jayorz12 05:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Good, I was sick of having to revert all those anon IP's. It seems like its been worse for this PPV than it is for for PPV articles, and it's still almost a month away. TJ Spyke 05:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
i was thinking the same thing. It might even be a good idea to do this with all the PPV till they happen. Bobert21

[edit] Matches

I have a feeling that the Chamber is gonna take up alot of the event because thats the only match scheduled currently and theres only 2 weeks left! Belevsquad 06:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

They could be like TNA. TNA announced about 5 matches for Genesis only days before the event. TJ Spyke 06:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hardy Boys vs ???

It hasn't been officialy anounced on WWE.com if Hardy Boys will face someone. Who put it there. And WHY?

From socks_01 at 5:31 pm (NZ Time) 27th November 2006.

Its been removed. If you ee any matches that haven't been announced on TV or wwe.com you can remove them too. Oh, all you have to do is type ~~~~ to sign your posts (which also posts the UTC time). TJ Spyke 04:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for removing it and telling me that! Socks 01 04:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MNM vs Hardys

Last night on RAW, MNM said they accept the Hardys` challenge and it has been confirmed on WWE.com. So it should be written there. 205.151.6.33 14:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

VKM (Voodoo Kin Mafia) from TNA said they want in the match (details at tnawrestling.com). Shouldn't we put a note about that?Freebird Jackson 00:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Not really, as we only add in official stuff (meaning WWE TV or WWE websites). TNA knows WWE won't do this and are just doing this as part of a gimmick because Brian James and Monty Sopp can't get over by themselves anymore, they have been failures since being released by WWE. TJ Spyke 00:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I was confused by that.Freebird Jackson 00:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The WWE won't do it because they know TNA is better than them and the VKM can get over just fine. User:Dustinwayne
No they won't do it because they don't know who or what a VKM is. GShton 22:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I hate to disagree but you are sadly mistaken. VKM is just a joke compared to when they were the New Age Outlaws. Tna is trying to start a war with WWE but WWE has yet to respond to any of the Voodoo kin Mafia's threats. As long as they do not respond they will lose against WWE. As long as there is no heat there will be not TNA vs WWE. DX is even more popular now than when they first started because of the legacy that they have already built for themselves and the stable. Not to mention that Ric Flair might soon be joining DX. VKM is just sad to even watch. This war with WWE will fail because TNA is not capable of competing with WWE on the grounds that WWE has a larger fanbase. no response from WWE means no heat for TNA! User: Big Boss 0

[edit] Just a question...

Is there only two matches scheduled for December to Dismember, or will they go by the old ECW tradition and just book other matches as a suprise? --TJ Sparks 13:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing. I don't know how ECW of old did their PPV's, but I was also wondering if only two matches would be there. Maybe the PPV will just be shorter, like 2 hours, or something like that. Most WWE PPV's are about 3-4 hours, right? Well, except for WMXX, but that was just 5 hours, so it was only a little longer. Maybe because ECW is only an hour instead of two hours like RAW and Smackdown are, maybe their PPV's are just shorter. What was ECW One Night Stand 2006 like? I know RVD said he'd challenge Cena to match for WWE Championship, but were the other matches that happened there announced beforehand? If they weren't, maybe that's how it'll be for this PPV as well. Anakinjmt 16:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
You'll probably see about 5-6 matches added on WWE.com this weekend. That's what they have done in the past to fill out cards for events. Probably like Sandman vs. Striker, Davari and Kahli vs. FBI, Dreamer vs. Thorn, etc. They've done it in the past for these problems. The issue isn't so much with the talent as with the fact that ECW has only 1 hour a week to promote this PPV, so WWE has chosen to go the route of having one big mega-match to sell the whole thing on. They do it with New Year's Revolution every year. Of course, the whole problem would be solved in there weren't more PPV's than months in the year.

[edit] New Match

I've seen an article on http://www.wrestlezone.com that says a new match has been added to the PPV which is The Sandman vs. Hardcore Holly. Does anyone know if this is true because it doesn't say on WWE.com.  Belevsquad  (talk)  01:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Probably just a rumor. WWE's website only has 2 matches mentioned (EC match and the tag team match) and only 2 matches have been announced on TV. So as of right now there are only 2 official matches. TJ Spyke 01:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
If it's a rumor then why is it the article?user: Dustinwayne
Vandals do that all the time with WWE PPV's, it's why they always end up having to be semi-protected. TJ Spyke 04:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

There are two new matches that have been added - Sandman vs Hardcore Holly - Daivari vs Tommy Dreamer—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Evtrumpet16 (talk • contribs).

Those have not been announced by WWE, so make sure not to add those rumored matches. TJ Spyke 02:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VKM

The Voodoo Kin Mafia wants in the match against the Hardys and MNM should that be in there since it's spread all over the internet? Dustinwayne

I suggest you check a talkpage before starting a new topic, this has been talked about already. TJ Spyke 04:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
After the PPV airs, I would suggest mentioning the VKM angle and 'acceptance' of the challenge as part of the event trivia because it is an anecdote relevant to the event itself.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Slickster (talk • contribs).
I'm not sure it is, TNA knew it would never happend and WWE knows that TNA isn't really competition yet (and won't be for at least a few more years). TJ Spyke 21:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sandman vs Holly and Tommy vs Davari

These matches are official, please stop deleting and being a dee-dee-dee.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crispen Raw (talk • contribs).

They are not official. WWE has not announced them on TV or on their website, therefore they are not official. Unless you think that rumored=official. TJ Spyke 22:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Length of Hardys vs MNM?

WWE.com is saying that the Hardys and MNM "competed in a 30 minute classic", yet the time we have down for the match is just over 22 minutes. Anybody that's watching the PPV, can you possibly explain the time differences? Anakinjmt 03:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure they were just rounding up. So if a match went 54 minutes, they would say 1 hour. TJ Spyke 03:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, but rounding up from 22 minutes to half an hour is more of a jump I'd think. Bah, oh well. Anakinjmt 03:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theme?

I'm going to take the "the official theme song for the event was "Bodies" by Drowning Pool" bit because there WAS no theme song for this PPV. There's no argument here, there simply wasn't a theme. 65.189.210.173 04:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I guess you don't check the WWE website, because it was the theme song: http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/shows1/decembertodismember/ TJ Spyke 04:44, December 5, 2006 (UTC)
Well, I guess I won't change it now, since you'll obviously just change it back, but since when does anything on WWE.com matter? It's just the general ECW theme, there were no "official theme song" segments in the December to Dismember promotion (not that there WAS any, but that's another topic). Calling "Bodies" the official theme of the show would be like going out of your way to say that "This is Extreme" was the official theme of every pay-per-view in the original ECW. It's just redundant. VelvetKevorkian 04:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe the fact that WWE says "The official theme song for December to Dismember is Drowning Pool's famed incantation "Bodies."" is official enough for you. So "Bodies" was the official theme. You said there was no argument, and I provided proof it was the theme, it's as simple as that. TJ Spyke 04:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Failure

I think under the trivia, it should list what a huge failure the 2006 show was, leading to Heyman getting fired. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.41.14.138 (talk) 18:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

That is POV. TJ Spyke 23:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Someone added it. Not me 12.41.14.138 14:27, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changed Match

It should be noted that it was gonna be Sandman vs Holly but it was changed. Someone may forget. 12.41.14.138 19:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

That was never announced, that was a rumored match being reported by "news" sites. TJ Spyke 23:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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