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Contents 1 == VMP wiki article == 2 Your signature 3 Your gun 4 Repost from User Talk:L0b0t re User talk:216.96.116.83 5 RE:Userpage Revert 6 Thank you 7 Edit summaries 8 Muhammad Ali 9 Thanks again! 10 Anti-spam 11 Hullo 12 rv? 13 lol 14 You're a heck of a wingman 15 Dude...

[edit] == VMP wiki article ==

Hi,

you keep removing my notes about the Viewpoint Media Player. Look I am not sure how to phrase them so they sound the way YOU want them to sound. if you feel they sound too much like an advertisement, fine, repharse them. But do not delete the entire stuff. it is just wrong to only say the VMP is used for advertising. It is just one side of the story. the VMP is a media player like Flash is. the fact that a lot of people do use it to display advertising is true too. (like it is the case for flash too). but you cannot simplify the VMP reason of being around advertising.

the fact that the VMP is used by car manufacturers to create car configurators is a fact. it is not an advertisement. people created games using the technology. web-merchants use it so you can have a 3d view of a product before purchasing it.

I am not going to keep modifying this article if my changes get deleted each time. I was trying to actually write something balanced and objective which truly describe what the VMP is.

I do feel that you are actually the person that wants to advertise his side of the story and who is not objective. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.215.146.170 (talk) 04:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

You seem to minimize or remove the angle that its purpose is indeed advertising. Its installation without consent or knowledge of the user by AOL products does constitute malware behavior. |||||| E. Sn0 =31337= ^{Talk to me :D} 05:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

But its purpose is not advertising. that is my point. what makes you say that VMP's purpose is advertising? would you say Macromedia Flash's purpose is advertising? Both players are being used to display advertising this is true. But both players are also being used to create web content. In the end, VMP is mostly a flash player with 3d capabilities.

Now i do agree with the fact that it is being installed in AOL without user consent is an issue. And I think it is the only issue here. (a big one though)

It's why i also wanted to remove the last paragraph that says that it sends back information to Viewpoint's servers. it is wrong. The reason VMP is perceived as spyware is because it is installed without user consent.(in case of AOL). If you look at the history I didn't delete the part that says that.

So please, have a second look at my changes, because i do think they reflect reality much more reality. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.215.146.170 (talk) 13:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Seems acceptable. I just don't want someone shilling for Viewpoint to wreck the article, that's all. |||||| E. Sn0 =31337= ^{Talk to me :D} 21:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your signature

I've noticed that your signature is a bit long. I was wondering if you could perhaps consider shortening it a bit. You might want to read WP:SIG as well. _JD^talk 00:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• Is this better? :) |||||| E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 00:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your gun

I noticed you were displaying your gun in the warning you issued to a blatant, bigoted vandal. On that warning, I've placed your gun back in its holster, but please don't worry: vandals like that don't last long here without being blocked. Just make sure that if you feel they are a blatant vandal, that you've placed the {{blatantvandal}} template on their talk page, leaving them elligible for blocking at any time in the future.

Atlant 12:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay. People with byzantine and backward views of life really ought not to be spewing their fecal matter all over Wikipedia and the Internet, but thanks for the tip about the blatantvandal tag. :)  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 17:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

(Just FYI) I have no dispute at all about your analysis of the situation.

Atlant 17:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Just making things clear, that's all. :)  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 17:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Repost from User Talk:L0b0t re User talk:216.96.116.83

Could you please do a CheckUser on User:Blue Sand521 to see if he's the same IP? This mess all started when I ventured that Blue Sand and the IP need to present an actual case contesting the deletion of Young B instead of the childish whining, personal attacks, and logical fallacies coming from their general direction. Apparently they're escalating to vandalism of user pages in their undeclared war. Wonderful.

See the talk page as well; they've turned it into a 'Let's whine and make baseless accusations and personal attacks!' personal pity party. It's a mess. I'd appreciate your help. Thank you. |||||| E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 00:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Neither User:L0b0t nor I has bureaucrat priveledges (in fact, neither of us is an admin), so we couldn't do that anyway. I'd advise trying to go through WP:RCU if it continues and it's bad enough. Anyway, they should try WP:DRV. Sorry if I'm restating everything you already know; but it's hard for me to figure out exactly what's going on with this one. Cheers. -Patstuart^talk|edits 13:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I apologize; I didn't know you didn't have CheckUser privileges. It appears the conflict is subsiding as it is anyway.  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 17:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Userpage Revert

No problem. I reverted your last edit to the IPs talk page. I did not think it was any point in be rude even if he was a troll. You also removed my test4 warning. It shuld also be notes that I am not an administrator and can not block the IP but I have reported him. Happy editing:-) Rettetast 23:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

222.155.245.216 is no blocked by an admin Rettetast 23:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thanks for reverting that nasty bit of vandalism that wound up on my user talk page. Wandering Star 02:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Any time. I live for pwning bigot vandals, especially when they get mad! They then invariably screw up bad enough to get a nice long block; self-pwn! :D  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 02:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

Hello. I was doing a bit of RC patrol and noticed a few of your edit summaries which I felt were 'over the line'; examples include this and this. While I agree that both instances were clear vandalism, insulting the vandal isn't the best course of action - it can be construed as a personal attack. I'm not trying to be the RC police or anything, but it's much better just to revert without commenting on the editor personally. Crystallina 00:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I'll tone them down. Stupidity still deserves punishment; blocking the vandals will suffice. :)  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 00:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Heh, I was about to post a topic about this. I'm glad to see yourself as a very good recent changes patroller but the more inflaming an edit summary you leave (such as this recent one 1) will provoke them to continue their vandalism spree just to spite you. Don't feed 'em with more attention. Keep up the good work and just try to prevent your fingers from typing a bit more steam than there needs to be ;).¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 23:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, i really gotta tone it down then. My philosophy is that when they're angry and you're calm, they're much easier to deal with when they explode. Maybe this one just needs the cold clinical treatment; he's obviously a proxy-hopper.  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 23:43, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to check in again on you but consider breathing in then out and counting to ten ;)...this comment was made in reference to yet another edit summary that was placed before counting from 1-10¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 05:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

There's probably a few more floating around too. I guess the 'vandal=chewtoy' tactic can come back to bite me in the ass. :P  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 05:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Muhammad Ali

read the ali article and you will see the sections i am trying to remove have already been posted above.... --prashidi 23:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I see. I concede the edit war. I apologize.  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk

[edit] Thanks again!

Once again, I really appreciate you watching out for and reverting vandalism to one of my pages -- this time, my talk page. And hello from one old San Antonio boy to another... :-) --JFreeman ^(talk) 03:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome any time! You're from SA too? (note: I'm from New Orleans, born and raised up till Hurricane Katrina blew me out of town and Cuisenarted my stuff. :P  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 04:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

 E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Yep, I grew up in SA and lived there through college. We're now in the Austin area, but still have lots of family in SA. Sorry about your Katrina experience; New Orleans has always been one of our favorite places. But I have no doubt that the good folks down there will come back better than ever. Take care, thanks for the smile, and right back at you... --JFreeman ^(talk) 04:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

JFreeman ^(talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

[edit] Anti-spam

I'll take a wild guess that you'll love this userbox.--Drat (Talk) 08:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Liked that new one I tore into that spammer? Got a box with a gun?  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 08:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I listed that user on WP:AIV, and they have now been indefinitely banned.--Drat (Talk) 10:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Haha, PWNED! I love it when the system works! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]).

[edit] Hullo

From what I can ascertain from your userboxes, you're an amazing guy. Have hug from this end of the pedia, we need more like you on here. Just thought I'd say that, cheer ya up. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 16:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thank you! Feel free to grab anything you want off my userpage too. :)  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 20:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] rv?

what is rv? Happy138 13:48, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

RV is an abbreviation for 'revert'. Have a nice day :)  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 20:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] lol

-- Steel 22:20, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Glad you appreciate my thanks.

I have a favor to ask, however. See Trans fat immediately. I sense a nasty edit war brewing between myself and a food industry insider who turned the article into pro-transfat propaganda full of weasel words and outright lies. A large number of source links got deleted too. I feel this is very serious and should be fought with the utmost severity! Thank you.  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 22:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know anything about trans fats so I'm probably not the best person to come to about food industry POV. What I do know is that Wikipedia policy doesn't allow usernames that contain the name of an organisation. User:ISEO has been blocked indefinitely [1] for that reason. -- Steel 22:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Trans fats are extremely unhealthy. They're also known as 'partially hydrogenated oil'. Unfortunately, they're way cheaper to make than lard which is very much healthier. My opinion of trans fats is they're completely unfit for human consumption in any way whatsoever.

Thanks for 'taking care' of this problem. I edited his user page with an indefblock tag (and removed his link. Wikipedia is not for advertising).  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 22:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You're a heck of a wingman

Dale, every time some vandal attempts to wreak havoc on my user or talk pages, you're there to shoot them down. As always, my thanks for that. I owe you a cold beverage of your choice sometime when I'm in town.

In the meantime, please accept this Barnstar with my appreciation.

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For anti-vandalism activities above and beyond the call. JFreeman (talk) 22:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! I owe you a cold one. You like brewski or vodka shots? Barnstar gratefully accepted and highly appreciated :D  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 22:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

"Hi!"

Hee. -- weirdoactor ^t|c 23:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dude...

Thanks for the watchfulness, but I can take care of my own user page. You don't need to threaten the vandals for me. Praise the lard! Dicklyon 04:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I guess I got a bit excited.  E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 06:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)