Talk:E. J. Gold

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[edit] POV section

• Note that this page is written by Gold's community and is mere propaganda for Gold. Gold is a casebook destructive guru who continues to harm earnest spiritual seekers lured into his web via his followers and several "sheep-fleecing" internet businesses. Beware. And also be informed that this message will be reposted as many times as it is deleted. Check out the history tab at the top of this page for the history of the deletions of all even remotely critical edits to this self-serving intentionally misleading entry. For more information on the characteristics of destructive groups and their leaders, check out www.rickross.com.

also visit http://darwiniana.com/2006/10/05/is-ej-gold-a-suif-hyeana/, and see the gold related links on that site.

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ej. gold community response to pov:

(I don't know much about Gold, and don't know if the rest of the page is propaganda but this section is not appropriate. Please cite specific references in a section marked "critiques" and fix the article if you find it biased.)

ej. gold community response to pov:

The edit by user LolaFroggy misunderstands the nature of "crazy wisdom" teaching, which directly challenges the ego or "separate self", the mixture of beliefs, misconceptions and conditioning that we perceive the world through. This process is never pleasant, but the rewards are beyond imagination.

When user LolaFroggy asserts that Gold is a "destructive" guru, she may well be right. All growth in any sphere of life occurs by "destruction", in the sense that what comes after, is not the same as what was before.Change and destruction are two sides of the same coin.Ego death is an inherently painful process, that can be made even more painful, by the holding on to limited and limiting self-concepts.This holding,limiting,contracting process itself, is the mechanism of ego.

Gurus who are not "destructive" in the above sense,are not gurus.Any guru worth his salt, will challenge the student's cherished beliefs about him/herself, god and the world around him/her.

This however, should not be taken as blanket justification, or advice to suspend simple common sense.He who tastes, knows.

wiki user:

crazy wisdom is... well... crazy. It's like this guy i know who was addicted to therapy sessions. How the hell was he ever gonna find a cure? But he kept walking around asking people how the "do not walk on the grass" signs got there in the first place. Soon, just like Forrest Gump, he had folks following him around looking for bits of wisdom that would fall off his table.

To attempt a logical analysis of crazy wisdom is like asking why kamikaze pilots in the Pacific in 1945 were made to wear helmets.