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How is this picture relevant in the article about Down syndrome? /81.226.181.227 19:13, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Uh... the child pictured has Down syndrome?

How does this illustrate down syndrome, would be a better question 71.33.43.85 00:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't. How could you illustrate down syndrome, anyway? -Thej2
With a picture of Trisomy 21, that's how. --Descendall 07:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source

User:Excalibur has said in the talk page for Down syndrome that the child pictured is his. It's reasonable to assume then that the rights are his, and by submitting it to Wikipedia, he has placed it under the GFDL. —Locke Cole • tc 12:24, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

I would consider this image a candidate for deletion as it does harm the personal rights of a child (that cannot speeak for himself). I have thus speedy deleted the copy on Commons. Arnomane 01:39, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Agree with Arnomane --Historiograf 01:41, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. Please do some research, or ask the uploader before jumping to conclusions. See this image's talk page: the uploader has stated that the boy depicted was his son. There is no reason to doubt that statement, and I think we may safely assume that in this case our use of the image is fine, even considering personality rights. Lupo 07:50, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I disagree as well as per Lupo. —Locke Cole • tc 08:09, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I side, also, with Locke Cole and Lupo. Moreover, it seems presumptious and downright insulting to consider that the picture is harming the personal rights of the child, as if down syndrome is something secretive. Rather, it depicts the uploader's son in normal activity, as is relevant. 129.81.83.113 01:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How do we know

How do we know that the child has Down Syndrome? Perhaps the Down Syndrome Karyotype would be better to feature on the Main Page. --75.21.42.216 04:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

This image has been on this article for years.[1] There is no reason to change it, and the user who uploaded it affirms that this is his son and that his son has Down Syndrome. --Victor 05:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Just for agument's sake, let's say I affirm it is actually MY son and that he DOES NOT have Down Syndrome? I agree that the karyotype image would be a much better representation of Down Syndrome. --Daverd2 16:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

The fact still remains that the child is holding a drill. Does the user that uploaded the picture (or anyone else) have another more suitable picture? Perhaps of the the child just sitting in a chair, or playing with a ball or something? A drill is too specific of an object. In the diplomacy article, would it make sense to show a picture of a diplomat assembling a desk with a hammer? Regardless of whether or not the person is diplomat, the picture would be out of place.

The arguement that the picture has been there for years makes no sense. Just because something has been around a long time doesn't mean it can't be improved. 216.162.240.250 16:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Greg

It doesn't matter whether or not the child actually has DS. It isn't obvious from the picture!martianlostinspace 18:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I could be wrong, but aren't the chubby cheeks and fingers (especially the fingertips) a dead giveaway? Raul654 23:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Main Page#Changing the image. --64.229.227.217 19:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)