User talk:Dreftymac

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[edit] Welcome

First, I'd like to give you the standard-format welcome lecture, which hopefully will be interesting:

Welcome!

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[edit] About Web template systems

Web template system, Web template, Template engine (web)

Plese take care with, and, if possible, Talk about first:

  • alterating basic concepts: it desestabilize the "conceptual structure" of the articles.
  • alterating basic terminology: it was stable, links and terminological consistence depends on it.
  • alterating figures: that is used to represent basic concepts!

See sections about these topics on Talk pages. -- Krauss 18:20, 23 November 2006

PS: please correct/adapt the english and the sections "near to finish" first.

Ok, one goal is to keep as much as the 'stabilized' terminology while still allowing the article to evolve and improve. There is a *lot* of good content in there, but it was simply unreadable! I understand the intent to emphasize MVC; Separation of concerns; and other terminology that seems to have been altered. The intent is not to alter terminology, but to keep all of it, while still making the article(s) more readable. dr.ef.tymac 03:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! We not agree about all... but only you and I are really working there! -- Krauss 24 November 2006
PS: for consensus process, if you prefer a more privative Talk, we can use e-mail, see my e-mail by wiki form.
Additional thoughts:User:Dreftymac/WebTemplateDiscussiondr.ef.tymac 04:23, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
OK, see you there!

PS2: for redirections problems see Template_system/Draft. Let see if that is the project (?):

  1. Umbrella approache:
  2. Another approach is use Template system and Template like now, as a "disambiguation page" or "hub article" (article like draft, only show scope and components of systems, and supply links)... only Web having umbrella.

-- Krauss

Possibly this (item 2?) could work well. I see your idea of refining the multi-article structure. Although, my first feeling is simply to continue to expand the "Template" disambiguation page (and leave Template System as it is now, merely a redirect), because there appear to be more people watching the "Template" page, and the more people watching means more opinions and more eyes watching (harder to reach consensus, but better chance to avoid viewpoint bias).
The ideia is only "unify/link similar articles"... we add a lot of "see also" links, and you unifying XSLT with illustration: it is another little "unify work" example -- Krauss 26 November 2006
There are another "3rd approach", that is now more usual on wipedia, is like a "hub table". There are many typical examples. See Top table style on Nash_equilibrium or Bottom table style on Formal_language. -- Krauss 26 November 2006
See also Comparison_of_programming_lanuages dr.ef.tymac 16:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Whatever you decide to do, I think there is a convention to put "draft" articles in the "user namespace" so you may want to move it there if you intend to keep the "Draft" status. Search
I don't know (perhaps very simple.... but nedd first a consensus about) how to put back Template_system as a article (it is a #redirec). -- Krauss 26 November 2006
-- dr.ef.tymac 01:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good surprises!

Thanks Dreftymac for the Good surprises on:

  1. Reviewing of the "template series", and making efforts to find consensus! -- Krauss November 2007.
  2. "Template series" new illustrations and drafts -- Krauss 26 November 2007.
    Thanks to you also for all you have done as well! The goal for me is simply to keep moving forward and making improvements, stabilizing content, and eventually reach "featured article" status for this continually growing material. I appreciate your feedback. dr.ef.tymac 20:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  3. To read (with attention) ugly parts of the formalism article, exposing problems and good questions. (please wait few days for new review, you point the need of work!) -- Krauss 27 November 2007.
  • I already have some work and refinements that were ready before I asked you the questions. The answers you already provided where detailed enough, so you don't need to review my questions anymore. Thanks for taking the time! There's always new work to be done so, no need to hurry! :) (NOTE: when you say "please wait a few days" I am assuming you naturally do not mean "please wait before making any contributions to the associated WP articles", if my assumption is wrong please clarify here!). Thanks for your contributions to WP! Slowly but surely, the content is moving forward, stabilizing and improving. dr.ef.tymac 16:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template Systems Series (Hub Table)

Started on a series template to include in the related articles. Will put it in soon so you can see what you think. It can be restructured or removed easily so adding should not disrupt anything. dr.ef.tymac 20:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Love talks

Nice comment on the talk page; restaurant-quality encyclohumor. And welcome :-) +sj + 00:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback :) It originally had [citation needed] on each assertion. Someone took those out. I thought it was funnier with those in there, but oh well. dr.ef.tymac 00:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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