Talk:Dres

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[edit] Factual accuracy of dres

I try to keep up with Polish culture, I really do. But I had not heard of the dres before. How much of this article is really true? --EuropracBHIT 00:04, 19 February 2006 (UTC).

I'm from Poland and as far as I can tell this article is accurate. Dres actually do exist, they can be easily found in most of the medium-to-big cities, and in smaller ones too. Their characteristics and typical behaviour depicted in the article are true.

Yes dres do exist and although i live in england i have Polish relatives and cousins who talk about them all of the time. They are often linked with football hooliganism in Poland as well. This article is accurate.

Dresy are a Polish reality, but the article is erroneous in that it describes them as being from, "generally from smaller towns and villages". Anyone who has been in Warsaw, Poznan, Wroclaw, Lodz or Krakow, knows that dresy constitute a significant group in large cities. (Polish dresy are also present in Toronto, Chicago and London) The article also has emotionally charged words, it is rather bias. There is no evidence or truth that dresy have "no respect for environmment, littering in public places". Also, dresy do not listen to disco polo music, this is a joke made up by the author to make dresy look bad. (Disco polo is widely seen as music polular in small towns) Also, there is a significant difference between Polish dresy and English chavs in that the latter are primarily not interested in working out and bodybuilding. While this is a prevelant characterisitc in Polish dresy. -Olo_yyz

All this (admittedly ancedotal) evidence about the existence of the dres makes me feel a little more comfortable with the concept. Why do you think dres tend to bodybuild, whereas a chav may not? Thank you for the points about what sort of music dres seem to listen to. And all of you, get wikipedia accounts, please. If you would like to, that is. I cannot speak to the charge about how they don't respect the environment as I do not remember that being emphasised in the article. --EuropracBHIT 09:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC).

Lack of respect for the environment comes from wider idea of not respecting any public property by dres. It is common for dres to e.g. throw an empty beer bottle to the sidewalk, an additionaly be very amused by the fact of doing so. As far as I am concerned, the article is correct. Dr_Bds

The article's content is certainly true from a Polish point of view, in most areas. I removed the factual accuracy template. --82.139.47.117 21:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The article is fairly correct, the word 'dresy' is widely used, and it refers to something that is very real. The greatest problem with the article is that it conflates many distinct types of violent youths into one rather heterogeneous category (but again, the precise use of the word 'dresy' does not seem to be fixed and varies from person to person). I can't agree that 'kark' is synonymous with 'dres'. 'Kark' refers specifically to the ones with big necks (as a result of anabolic steroids). As some people have noted, showing "no respect for the environmment, littering in public places" is nothing 'ideological' and should probably be removed. The disco polo thing - it's true dresy used to be identified with this type of music, but definitely aren't now. Most importantly, I can't agree that dresy are in any way 'sport oriented' (barring bodybuilding with steroid abuse) - I find this statement grossly incorrect and I will take it out from the article (please discuss before reverting). Ariosto 21:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I am from Poland, but I am not a good english writer. But I can say that this definition is wrong (on find this link at news group with funny sites). So question is what is the polish dres? short answer: polish dres (dres=dresiarz, and also tracksuit)is a young men whose wear tracksuit but only oryginal (in most cases stolen one, but now they buying new in shops). In Poland somebody who wear tracksuit with 4 stripes is wiesniak (williage man, men who lives in country side). They always bald (hair must be shorter than 5 mm), most of them smoking, everyone drink (beer, vodka) ofen they meet in groups around banch (tolking abot "normal" life, girl, parts, drags) and they used much of sword words (but is normal), they like fights and stoling thing; about music - hip-hop but in a few precent it can be something else but not a metal music... and there are much more details about dresiarz's life. Maybe you do not see a difrence beetwen the article and my definition but is really big (and I will not finished it) [user:przemi;23:38 UTC+2 (?); 6 december 2006]

[edit] fake brands

(fake brands like Addidas, Nike or ReeBook)

Nike is not a fake brand - it's one of the famous one. Marooned --65.91.97.66 22:45, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The phrase "Popular knock offs [...]" should be replaced by "The most popularly knocked off designs [...] ".