User talk:Drcaldev

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[edit] Soapbox

Please stop using Wikipedia as your own personal soapbox to try and put forward your POV on topics, and adding information that is irrelevant to other articles. If you want to have a rant against US drug controls this is not the place to do it. Please read WP:NOT.Ben W Bell talk 06:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Please stop adding irrelevant soapbox nonsense to articles that are irrelevant to them, such as to Prohibition, such edits are considered vandalism and will be treated as such. Ben W Bell talk 06:34, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Stop trying to add rubbish to the Prohibition article. Adding a globalise tag is irrelevant since the article specifically deals with alcohol prohibition all over the world and not just the United States. If you persist in this editing behaviour then your account be considered for a temporary editing block. See WP:Vandalism, WP:NOT and WP:Point. Ben W Bell talk 06:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Prohibition should be called Prohibition (Alcohol). Do you understand why?

Ok, you demonstrate you don´t understand that. So stop messing with things you are not familiar with. Your behavior is vandalic, is bullying, mine is not. I´m contributing in good faith to this project. You are just being destructive and prejudicial Drcaldev 08:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Read No personal attacks. Ben W Bell talk 08:18, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, personal attacks is exactly what you´ve been doing since the beginning. I´m putting verifiable information on the wiki and you call it soapbox rants just because you are conservative or something and it hurts your POV. You are not assuming good faith, and seem to act on bad faith when terming vandalic contributions of mine that clearly are not. Stop doing that. I call for an arbitration in this matter. Drcaldev 08:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

The statement by Ben W Bell "Please stop using Wikipedia as your own personal soapbox to try and put forward your POV on topics" is a personal attack which I responded to. I ask for banning Bell from doing vandalism on my contributions. He is obviously bullying because of his conservative militaristic POV, reflected in his contribs. Drcaldev 05:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

No, it's not a personal attack, and neither are Ben's edits either conservative or militaristic (and that accusation does verge on a personal attack). Your point of view has no place on Wikipedia. This is an encyclopaedia. It is designed to contain verifiable facts, nothing more. You are entitled to your opinion, but if you wish to post it on the web then please do it on another website, not here. If you wish to take the matter to arbitration then feel free to do so, but I think you can guess what the outcome is likely to be. -- Necrothesp 09:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, the information is already recognized as verifiable. Pharamacological dissent is not a Personal Point of View but an encyclopaedic fact if you want. Anyway, if you or some fellow keep saying alcohol is not a drug, what can one do when the damage seems done?

I consider Bell and those strange popping friends that defend him repeat word by word his arguments and use personal attacks while preaching against them, the vandalizers and destroyers. A Hawkypedia would give you more constructive things to do. Drcaldev 09:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

One again, since you apparently do not understand, if you continue to make personal attacks or post blatant POV you will be blocked. And incidentally, I have never said that alcohol is not a drug. This is a pure straw man on your part. -- Necrothesp 10:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Look, I´m in good faith and not a lie has been demonstrated in my assertions, neither they are soapbox ranting because they have been recognized as not original research. Therefore, the accussations of the group for prohibition of certain drugs were personal attacks, prejudicial, since the beginning. Wikipolicemen are allowed to provoke contributing users with personal attacks, while preaching against personal attacks??

If you read the Talk:Prohibition you will see how the principal argument against merging Prohibition with Prohibition (drugs) is stated by this User "oppose alcohol is a drug is a POV theme that distorts the encyclopedia. Rjensen 06:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC)". Since administrators are known to bilocate (plurilocate) I assume this is a personal ranting of some people not wanting to accept their drug of choice is a "drug". Drcaldev 15:27, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Legal Drug Trade

This is your last warning.
The next time you create an inappropriate page such as Legal Drug Trade, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Again, see WP:NPOV. NawlinWiki 16:49, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Final personal attack warning

This is your final warning on personal attacks. Comments like the one you left on the Talk:Prohibition page.

Also a lot of people attacking my criticism tend to be military oriented. Since militias and police are known to profit (indirectly and directly) from the Prohibition/Promotion of Certain Drugs (as Reinarman and Levine state in his "Secret of Worldwide Drug Prohibition", and Chomsky in the links and quotes given, etc) this is seems a conflict of interest. 
 Drug war propaganda justifies a lot of budget to repressive forces. Representatives and sympathizers with these are usually brainwashed by their superiors and their training to defend to death this current profitable Prohibition, in which the budget to pay their salaries heavily depends.
So I understand the virulent oppossition to a global point of view on the matter. Wikipedia seems to be intervened by the military. Let´s hope civil society could make a Civilipedia to compete with these Armypedia...

Any more comments like this against other users will result in you being blocked from Wikipedia. Ben W Bell talk 16:56, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV and Agenda pushing edits

I ask you to stop with your extreme POV and agenda pushing edits to topics on Wikipedia. Please read WP:NPOV. Continued agenda pushing alterations to articles, such as the changes you made to Addiction, are not helpful and against the neutral POV that Wikipedia strives for. Wikipedia is not an outlet for your views and soapboxing, it is a neutral encyclopaedia. Ben W Bell talk 16:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV and Agenda pushing reverts

I disagree with you. You should read WP:NPOV. Neutrality arises from colective edition of the wikipedia. You are preventing that with an agenda of your own, and stubborn reverting. I disregard your vandalism on my edits. And, also, I would like to hear critique from a neutral and informed editor, but not again from you or your friends who for example say in Talk:Prohibition that alcohol is not a drug, and tell me POV because stating that it is.

That´s not serious, much less neutral from your team of stubborn reverters. Drcaldev 06:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

And what friends would you be talking about? Just because other editors appear and support my position doesn't mean I'm soliciting them to do so. In fact with regards to your accusing me of calling up friends (something I haven't done), you in fact tried to rally round support for one of your set of changes from users in the Wikipedia community and they ended up voting against you. Calling terms that you may personally disagree with ad hoc proganda terms, is not a neutral perspective. Changing "Addiction is a chronic disorder " to "Addiction is a pejorative, historical term to refer to dependence on substances (such as analgesics) or behaviors (such as gambling)," is not neutral. You very obviously have a deep seated interest in one side of the discussions on these terms and the criminalisation of certain drugs in the United States. If you have such deep seated interests in promoting one sides POV and feelings then you can find difficulty in writing about a topic neutrally. I have no strong opinions on this matter, I simply am fixing disruptive agenda and POV pushing edits to Wikipedia which many of your edits unfortunately are. Ben W Bell talk 07:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Also if you would care to check, this edit you made and made a personal attack against me in the comments section[This], if you check the history I didn't alter that wording except to remove a section and link to a dead article. The incorrect wording you corrected was actually inserted by yourself when you created the article, and it wasn't spotted until now. This comment "repaired distortion to nonsense (i complain of vandalism) by Ben W Bell" constitutes a personal attack for something which you didn't bother to check up on. Ben W Bell talk 10:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
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