Talk:Dragon School

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[edit] Logo?

That thing called a logo looks more like a crest to me, in the technical sense of being the thing on top of the helm (I take it that is a wreath the dragon is sitting on). On the other hand, a crest couldn't very well include that segment of something in the top left corner. Maybe it is indeed a "logo". Does the school have armorial bearings? It's possible it doesn't, given the unorthodox behaviour of the school's early proprietors. Doesn't a logo need to have letters or even one or more words really, assuming it's derived from λογος.--AlexanderLondon 23:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

This is an interesting one and something I often wonder about - not, I hasten to add, solely in connection with the Dragon School (in fact never in connection with the Dragon School until now) - usually when addressing envelopes (as below). Grand types of school do seem to attract the definite article, e.g. The Perse School, The Judd School, and any number of "The King's" schools. Do people usually say "The" for "The King's"? (I went to a comprehensive myself and don't know people who habitually talk about these places). I live near Judd and I think it's either The Judd School or Judd - never Judd School, though. From Oxford experience, I should say that "The Queen's College" is rare in speech, if only because you would just say "Queen's". However, in any more formal setting I think it is "The Queen's College, Oxford" (but not "The King's College, Cambridge", or, for that matter, "The Queens' College, Cambridge"). By the way, Lord Eatwell - what a name for the president of an Oxbridge college, except, of course, Regent's Park College, Oxford, which ought to have a Reverend Dr Drinkwater as principal (it doesn't - it has a Reverend Professor Fiddes, which is almost as good).--AlexanderLondon 23:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Do you think 'the definite article' should be used for this er... article? -- Mintguy

Hmm, I'm not sure, but as far as I'm aware most instituions with names that start with "The" don't have the "The" in the article name. For example, the University of Cambridge is under University of Cambridge, rather than The University of Cambridge. (Is that analogous?) In this case, the "The" seems to be attached to the name, but not as a fully fledged part of the name, because the website calls it "the Dragon School" rather than "The Dragon School" - except at the beginning of a sentence, of course. But then again, would "the" as part of a name be capitalised anyway? Oh, you've confused me now. What was the question again...? -- Oliver P. 01:42 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)

Well, if you were addressing a letter to the school, you would put

Fred Bloggs Quentin Farquharson
The Dragon School
etc...

Whereas I'm not sure you'd do this with University of Cambridge. Mintguy

Ah, good point. I'll just say I'm still not sure... Can you think of any examples of similarly named institutions that already have articles, that we can look to for precedents? Does anyone else want to express a third opinion...? -- Oliver P. 02:05 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)

I could point out that the school's website is at dragonschool.org rather than thedragonschool.org... And that the copyright notice on the main page is "© Dragon School Trust Ltd 2003", even though it's really The Dragon School Trust Ltd... I'm not sure how relevant these facts are, though... -- Oliver P.

My opinion: a school for dragons! Cool! (oh, and I'll make a redirect from The Dragon School to here to cover all bases - I don't know where the article should be, but here seems OK to me. Does it matter?) --Camembert

Well I'm not stating a definite opinion on this myself. I don't know either. But for similar institututions how about The Football Association, The Labour Party (UK)... hm.. which I've just noticed someone has moved.. it needs to go back I think 'cos it is registered with the Electorial Commission as 'The Labour Party' and we had a big discussion about the name. Mintguy