User talk:Dr who1975

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[edit] Category:People known by pseudonyms

Hehe, yeah the list seemed pretty short to me (and still does). My opinion is shortened names such as Little Steven don't count, they're more like nicknames. Another example would be Cher, which is simply a shortened version of her full name Cherilyn LaPiere. So I didn't add her. However, I did add Ritchie Valens, which I felt was sufficiently different from Richard Valenzuela, not to mention his label specifically changed his name for marketing reasons. Even deeper in the gray area is my addition of Ace Frehley (born Paul Frehley) which could possibly qualify as a nickname, but since it was Ace instead of "Ace" I opted to add him.

One question I've been pondering is the name of GWAR members. To me, Oderus Urungus et al. are characters, in some cases played by different musicians over time. In fact, I think Dave Brockie may be just as well known by his birth name. I think I'll remove them.

Another curiosity is that both Puff Daddy and P Diddy appear on the list, but his current name, Diddy, doesn't. I was considering only categorizing his latest moniker, and for this reason would also remove The Artist Formerly Known As Prince, who has gone back to Prince and incidentally was born Prince Nelson.

So this is my long, boring answer to your question. Would you agree with my analysis? Hoof Hearted 20:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding changing last names only - I was a little unsure when I added Mel Brooks, and Natalie Portman. I'll admit it was a judgement call and certainly wouldn't object to removing their names. I'll agree with you about Oderus Urungus. My main argument was The Dave Brockie Experience which states his real name, but GWAR is a much more popular band. (BTW, are you a fan like me?) I agree with you 100% on Steagal - that was a new one to me. My concern with Diddy was only a technical one: the catergoy is titled "People known by pseudonyms", not "Pseudonyms used by people". Thus, in a sense, Sean Combs appears on a list of people several times. But I agree that the ridiculous nature of all the name changes are in the "spirit" of the list, and ultimately wouldn't object to their inclusion. You're absolutely right about The Artist..., past pseudonyms are certainly valid.
As for nickname vs. pseudonym - I think this is a subjective debate with a lot of overlap between the two. I would agree with the nickname article that describes the term as a shortened or familiar form of someone's real name. (Matisyahu is the Hebrew name for his real name, Matthew). Whereas a pseudonym allows much more variation from someone's real name.
My thinking is that people on this category should have a real article (not a redirect) for the pseudonym. However, there will always be exceptions (Spice Girls, The Artist...). This ensures notability and a genuine pseudonym. I violated my own rule with Mr. Lordi, and will probably remove him (unless you think it would be a good idea to list the Lordi guys too). I haven't had much experience with categories. I was thinking of adding some text at the top with "guidelines for inclusion" - do you know if that's frowned upon? Would you like to work together to develop the "official" guidelines?
Hey, it's been great talking to you. Glad to know there are others out there who can be serious while having fun. Hoof Hearted 17:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Proposed Guidelines for Inclusion

  • It is best if the pseudonym is a wiki article (not a redirect).
  • Try to include true pseudonyms rather than nicknames.
    • The first name or surname should differ significantly from the real name.
    • Quotation marks around a name usually indicate a nickname.
    • In general, stage names and pen names are valid, character names are not. I think Ali G and Pee Wee Herman are good examples of character name exceptions.
  • Former pseudonyms may be included.
  • People who have had their names legally changed should not be included.
  • The person should be relatively well known. I'm questioning the validity of Isambard Khroustalov, Melnyk, and Ray Zee among others.

--Hoof Hearted 18:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] coordinates on Template:Infobox Stadium

If I understand you correctly on your recent posts, the template you are looking for is Template:Coor title dms. PETCO Park has the template tag near the bottom of the page, next to the Template:MLB tag. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

  • A follow up: The coordinates on the Giants Stadium is currently appearing on the infobox, so I assume you did not refresh the cache on your web browser (by pressing F5 on most browsers). Secondly, some articles may use Template:Geolinks-US-cityscale, which also puts a similar listing of coordinates in the upper-right of the article, just below the horizontal rule running under the article's title. As for something being "disabled", I am not sure what you are exactly referring to. Best. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Okay, after briefly looking at your edits on the stadium articles, and re-reading your posts again, I think it is just basically a misunderstanding which template does what, not the fault of any user adding or disabling something. Currently, Template:Coor dms, which you only used, does NOT put the coordinates at the top of the page. Templates like Template:Coor title dms and Template:Geolinks-US-cityscale do, which some of the stadium articles like PETCO Park use. Giants Stadium currently does not have a template that puts the coordinates at the top of the page. A good list of all the coordinate templates can be found at WP:GEO#Templates. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 03:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinates

Huh? I made a change to it but I reverted it back to your version... If something's wrong then it's probably from your version. --3bulletproof16 02:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinate precision...

You have changed some stadium coordinates to be very precise, such as Coors Field to 39°45′21.14″N, 104°59′39.02″W. Even though the whole number seconds are plenty to still stay within ballpark 39°45′21″N, 104°59′39″W. Is there any reason for this precision, is this a citable coordinate with some reference? Otherwise, it seems a little overboard. --MattWright (talk) 04:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not going to undo them, was just curious the reason for it. Thanks for the response. --MattWright (talk) 14:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
How do you get the 50 yard line or pitcher's mound for closed roof stadiums? --MattWright (talk) 14:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:User Pug

Hi Dr who1975,

As part of the German userbox solution, would you be willing to move "Template:User Pug" to your userspace? If you are but aren't sure about the details, I can do it for you and let you know when the changes are made. Or, I can move it to my userspace, where most of the other pet boxes are located. The biggest difference you'll notice is it won't be listed at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Pets, which is in the process of being userfied. However, it still will be listed at the larger directory, User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes/Pets. Let me know what you think. Regards, Rfrisbietalk 18:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Go for it! No hurry. Rfrisbietalk 21:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, so a bit of a hurry. The original page is gone so I moved Pug to User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/Pug2. You still can move it to your area when you have the time. You can see it at User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes/Pets. Rfrisbietalk 16:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. It's been a busy week.--Dr who1975 16:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, it's still there. Rfrisbietalk 17:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Go for it! Rfrisbietalk 21:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Admins have to delete pages, and I think I have to ask, so I'll do that in a while. Congrats! :-) Rfrisbietalk 23:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

How did you know about Clifford Davis being involved in the 1954 U.S. Capitol Shooting incident? When my father asked a Capitol guard about this incident in 1980, he was shown the bullet hole in the ceiling (next to the great seal, it resulted from one of the shooters being wrestled to the floor while in the act of firing) and told that he was the first person to have asked about it in at least 10 years (presumably to that guide, at least). Rlquall 03:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Under the verifiability guidelines, we're really not supposed to use one Wikipedia article to verify another or as a source. In reality, nearly all active Wikipedians have done it at one time or another, so you certainly haven't offended me, but I was hoping that you maybe had an independent source with which I was unfamiliar. In any event, I thank you for getting back with me, especially so fast, and wish you happy editing! Rlquall 16:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New User Box

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[edit] mr_uu

".... but have you been to the Bahamas!?" No but would like to spend some air-miles and go there one-day, thanks I added Dr.Who fan box from the 3rd doctor, mr_uu 19:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Supercentenarians.

Heh DrWho. I didn't even look at the date of birth and date of death of Thomas Peters. I just saw the 112 years 80 days part, no idea where that came from.

The thing is, Wikipedia had a Thomas Peters page and it got deleted, and it seems that the people who wrote the new Thomas Peters (supercentenarian) page were not the previous authors, so it seems that hid page became completely different and rewritten, and because it was deleted, there wasn't a way to revert to the previous article. But that's okay.

Me, Bart Versieck, and Robert Douglas Young (RYoung122) come from a group where they document all supercentenarians. The parent site is www.grg.org. Guinness World Records tend to validate the oldest person in the world cases only, so you won't really know who's the second oldest person in the world, since persay, the '70s. Anyways I don't know the specifics of Thomas Peters. Neal 12:53, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Supercentinarians I had to sift through your compaints to wikipedia management to figure out what was going on and I have a few comments.

First of all, if I make a mthematical error or a mistake on somebody's page. It's an error, that's what it is. Considering the less than thurough ways in which you've been updating pages (you didn't even try to fix the succession boxes) you don't have much room to complain to management. I looked back and realized I made a mistake with Thomas Peters death date. I guess you've never made a mistake in your life. Also, Thomas Peter's didn't have a page before I put it up so when it comes to him at least I made an attemp to bring more information to wikipedia. The mistake about Jeane Klement reaching 120 years 238 days on Oct 17 1995 (not Oct 4 1995) was a mistake I DISCOVERED AND CORRECTED MUSELF!!!! yet you felt the need to complain about it.

Secondly... nice teamwork. Thanks for taking me seriously. Here I am, willing to help organize the information you provided (because even I know that you are the expert in this and not me) and you spit in my face. I apreciate it. Maybe I'll send a letter to your superiors at Guinness since you feel so comfortable representing them in this fasion.

I tried looking for you when all this strated with Bart but I didn;t realize the R was capitalized


Mr Who, it looks to me like you're the one who's spitting in my face...and you make far more errors than I do. Let's start with your above message.

1. Misspelled 'supercentenarians' 2. Misspelled 'mathematical' 3. Misspelled 'thorough' 4. Misspelled 'Jeanne' 5. Misspelled 'Calment' 6. Misspelled 'Peters' 7. Misspelled 'attempt' 8. Misspelled 'appreciate' 9. Misspelled 'fashion' 10. Misspelled 'started' 11. Misspelled 'didn't' 12. Forgot the period

I don't think making threats to take this to higher-ups is appropriate or polite in any way or manner, considering you didn't even go to me first about any issue. And both Bart and Neal complained about your editing as well. So, why don't you talk to them first since they brought this to my attention.→ R Young {yakłtalk} 05:31, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

For your information, Wikipedia is NOT a 'job.' It's an unpaid VOLUNTEER service. If I lay out a framework and you finish it, great. If not, well, it's still not my 'job.' Wikipedia doesn't pay me anything.→ R Young {yakłtalk} 05:38, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Midget/Dwarf Actors

I added Tony Cox and Danny Woodburn to the category, but I'm leery of the "Midget" part. Aside from the controversy of the term, it seems somewhat redundant, akin to "Gay and Homosexual Actors". Would you mind if I changed the category to "Actors with Dwarfism"? And yes, Doctor Who is awesome. Jjacobsmeyer 15:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not redundant because the slash means either/or.

→ R Young {yakłtalk} 05:32, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I should have been more exact in the header; the category as it is now reads "Midget and Dwarf Actors". I guess I wanted to save space. Plus, the Dwarfism article mentions the fact that the term "midget" usually applied only to those with pituitary dwarfism, a condition that has been greatly reduced in developed nations. There also is precedent for changing the name, based on the "People with Dwarfism" category. Jjacobsmeyer 12:24, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we should change it but I'd like to discuss this more. Midget isn't always a pajorative term. The artical on Midget say's it's scientific. Plus it has always been my understanding that Midget and Dwarf are two different things. For insatnce, Gary Coleman does not appear to be considered a Dwarf but he is a little person and I would like the category to include him. I personally would not liek to call it "little people actors" so Midget and Dwarf actors sounds best. What say you?--Dr who1975 04:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not identical

Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen are not identical and the article specifically points this out. --Yamla 21:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Damn... they look identical.--Dr who1975 21:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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