Talk:Dork
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This article was nominated for deletion on 21 February 2006. The result of the discussion was keep. |
[edit] Recreation/redeletion (please leave the talk page as a record)
The article has 120 deleted edits as of today's date. It has been deleted, recreated, deleted, and recreated. Apparently, Texture tried to avoid the continual recreation and redeletion by making it into a redirect page. That's not a bad idea, but others have objected and moved it to speedy delete. I'm going to delete it again and hope that the vandals who have continually recreated it have moved on to greener pastures. If this is not the case, if the page is recreated again, I suggest a protected deletion. Geogre 14:51, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I think it's rather silly that there continues to be no page for dork two months after it was deleted. If there is sufficient means to re-direct this page to wictionary or to nerd, then fine. I however suggest that this could be its own page that would deal with its etymology and uses in popular culture. Jdotpitts 23:14, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Old talk
Article was successfully deleted once already on Mar 20 2005. It has since been resurrected. I renominate for deletion on the same grounds as the first time - the page mirrors a good wiktionary article and belongs on wiktionary, no info is provided beyond what wiktionary has given, and the page simply serves to attract vandalism.
why is there no page on dork. i want to know the history of the word
- I concur. At least a wiktionary redirect. - Omegatron 23:02, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
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- I agree too. Quick definition: a person who is very or completely inept socially and is usually unaware of this ineptitude. Having a definition could lead to many self diagnoses of dorkiness and could lead people to seek treatment. I'm not kidding! If you tell a dork he's a dork he won't listen and he'll never evolve into a well adjusted nerd or geek.--Ryuukuro 22:48, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
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- This page needs to include a wiktionary link and a discussion behind the etymology of the word (from "dick", according to the full non-concise OED). This whale penis bit appears to be rubbish -- can anyone provide a reference for its use in this context? I expect not. Czyl
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We already have a wiktionary definition: wiktionary:dork, but wiktionary wouldn't cover the history of the word (including the urban legend "whale penis" histories of the word). — Omegatron 23:43, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
- I'd suggest this article be killed. According to wiktionary's FAQ, their entries should include the etymology of the word. This would cover its history, unless there is a significant cultural importance attached to the word in the present context (for instance, nerd) or an interesting story of origin that goes past its etymology. Right now it just appears to be a piece of slang that originally came from "dirk" or "dick", but there's no backstory beyond that.
- The "whale penis" myth is interesting as an urban legend, but I don't know of any reference that's actually looked into the origin of this myth. So all this article could state about it is speculation. I marked move to Wiktionary. Czyl 02:33, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] This article should NOT redirect to nerd
The two words do not describe the same concept. Please justify the redirect if you revert, or else you're just being uselessly obstinate. 71.131.184.183 10:24, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Get it back.
Okay, even if past entries are bad, why not just put up a tiny bit, then expand it as we learn more about any true origins? It doesn't matter at all if there's a Wiktionary article on it, there's bound to be overlap between Dictionaries and Encyclopedias. Definately, a link to Wiktionary would be useful in references though. Any thoughts? I'd like to see it up. As I see it, it seems to be quite similar to Nerd and Geek although it hasn't been taken back as widely and is still probably the most disparaging. --User:Tyciol
- Absolutely, there's no excuse for just deleting the page without an explanation being left up. I tried the search and I only got a number of towns called 'Dork', we need an explanation and the history of the word, urban legends and what not, and then a trans-wiki to wiktionary. It's just common sense. - User:Dalta
I would like to be able to post an article on the game "Dork". It's a party game acutally in which the players use a pool table, the 8 ball, and the que ball to bounce back and forth in a pattern with the object being to either pocket it or set up a shot so the person following your turn does not get to hit it before it stops rolling. If the 8 ball is pocketed then the person following the one who pocked it gets a letter (d, o, r, or k) or if the ball stops rolling before a person can hit it then they are out. Anyway it sounds complicated but i would like to post a complete description with rules on the game because it is one of the most entertaining party games i have known and i think everyone should know how to play it. - user:Leh-nerd77
[edit] "Not verified" template
The website given as a sole reference is of dubious authority and does not provide source of its wisdom. mikka (t) 08:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] finally!
someone really didn't want this article to exist back in the day. I tried- check the deletion log y'all who can. maybe there wern't enough links to it to make it take off fast enough w/ other users. course, it's hard to tell right now how many backlinkz this would have if it weren't for that open-task inclusion. I need to seek my Kzzl Vision 08:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reversion
I reverted the information that Numberoneconti typed for Dork. The information is not historically accurate, and if it is, he must prove it by posting the proper citation of where his information may be found. According to a reliable source, an etymology dictionary, this link --[1], dork is properly explained already, thereby proving his edit to be vandalism. This type of Vandalism, is called "sneaky vandalism", which may be researched here, is on the grounds for blocking by administrators if he edits with false information constantly. Please post back on my talk page, informing me of any replies to my comment. Slasher600 (talk • contribs)
[edit] Dork / Latch-key
The connection between "dork" and "latchkey kids" is something that I've been aware of for years, but I'm having trouble finding good references. Etymology is hard to get straight on the Net, and it's especially hard to get the etymology of a word that had a meaning previous to the new usage.
Does anyone have a good, offline reference that covers the 70s-80s changes in usage and the influence of the latchkey studies of that era? If so, I'd love to add the appropriate reference here. -Harmil 21:26, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Is it true that most dorks are brown-haired?
[edit] Monikers
I just added an internal link to Adam Brodsky, a well-known anti-folk singer who is known by the name "Dork" or "Dorkboy". It's fairly clear if you look at his page. samwaltz 18:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC) Ach jah, evidence is at http://www.adambrodsky.com/index.php?page=cds&display=24 samwaltz 18:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Errr... I just bumped him into the inline text, as it looks like having a name listed in "See also" may be a magnet for vandalism. samwaltz 19:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Situation Comedy
For reference, I just added "Dork" to the character archetype section of Situation Comedy, in case anyone wants to check up on Urkel, etc. samwaltz 08:51, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dork: The Game
http://moojob.com/dork/ Cute video game. Is it worth mention? samwaltz 15:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- I had been thinking about adding a link to the game, but wasn't sure how ethical it would be since I'm the game's author. Also worth a link, probably: Dork Tower, King Dork. Alan deLespinasse 20:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The page could use some colour
Grrr... I'm thinking the page could use some colour. This is the only thing I can think of; it is (clearly) one of Adam Brodsky's album covers. What do you think? Is a graphic desirable on this page? Can anyone think of a better one to use? samwaltz 09:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removed 'Stereotype' Description
The stereotype described was obviously for 'nerd', look at the nerd page, the pictures there fit the description.ThePotsy 04:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
