Talk:Don't Forget About Us
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Is there any reason for including details about Carey's clothing (apart from wearing her boyfriend's jacket) and the colour of the rooms featured in the video? Extraordinary Machine 18:40, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, when you edited it, you made it sound like she was crying in all those solo scenes. She only cries in that one for a bit, so the other info was added to help differentiate the two scenes OmegaWikipedia 18:48, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Chart trajectories
In the words of user:FuriousFreddy: do we really need to know exactly how a song performed week-by-week on the charts, in the context of an encyclopedia article? Extraordinary Machine 23:08, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- If we have attained the trajectories, then why not? —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 02:54, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Because it is unencyclopedic trivia that is only of interest to music enthusiasts/chart followers and fans of the recording artist. We're here to summarise facts, not include them all. Extraordinary Machine 21:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
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- The only people reading this article are "music enthusiasts/chart followers and fans of the recording artist." There is no reason not to include something as interesting (in my opinion) as the chart trajectory. It's not like it takes a lot of space. 02:21, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Charts
The charts section lists:
Hot Digital Songs: #1 (3 weeks) & Hot Digital Tracks: #1 (2 weeks)
This is wrong, in fact the real listing should be:
Hot Digital Songs: #1 (one week) & Hot Digital Tracks: #2
[edit] Infobox link to The Emancipation of Mimi
Per Wikipedia:Piped link guidelines, this should read The Emancipation of Mimi (Ultra Platinum Edition), not The Emancipation of Mimi (Ultra Platinum Edition), as there is no article by the name of "The Emancipation of Mimi (Ultra Platinum Edition)". Extraordinary Machine 21:25, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Unexplained removal of lead content
I'd like to know why user:Get2nomey keeps removing from the article's lead section a mention of the song's moderate chart performance outside of the U.S. Extraordinary Machine 17:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
I deleted it because its unnecessary and unremarkable that this particular single did not perform as well in other parts of the world. There is nothing extraordinary about that. Such facts are not mentioned for every single that is discussed on Wikipedia or even for every single that Mariah has so why discuss it for this song. There has to be some special reason for bringing up that pointless information in the lead for the song. It does not belong there.
I also edited the discussion about whether or not Billboard credits Elvis with 17 or 18 number one singles because it was described incorrectly. Billboard magazine is the final arbiter of what is number 1 on their charts. If Billboard disagrees with their statistician, who works for them, then their decision to say that Elvis only has 17 is the "official" decision, not Whitburn's figure. Whitburn works for Billboard, not the other way around. If Billboard says its 17 then that's what it is.
- Why discuss it for this song? Because it could be considered a violation of Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy not to mention the single's moderate chart performance outside of the U.S., especially given that other Carey single articles (We Belong Together, Heartbreaker (Mariah Carey song) etc.) mention the corresponding single's non-U.S. chart performance in their lead sections when it performed strongly in other countries. Extraordinary Machine 20:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I edited the lead again to say that it was a hit in several other countries. This more accurately describes its performance around the world because it went to #1 in Finland, #11 in the U.K., #12 in Canada, #17 in Australia. It went top 20 in 3 counries and number 1 in another. I think that means that it was a hit elsewhere. You don't have to go number 1 in order to have had a hit. Furthermore, I disagree that it is a violation of Wikipedia policy not to mention that it wasn't a hit elsewhere. This is an encyclopedia and it would seem to me that Don't Forget About Us is notable a) because it was a single released by a notable star and b) because the single itself gained notoriety. Why is it necessary to discuss the single's modest performance in some other country when it is most notable for its success in the U.S. It's like saying in Bill Clinton's bio that he wasn't elected to the U.S. Senate, like his wife was. Who cares. It's true but it's not notable. It's not the reason he belongs in an Encyclopedia.
Someone has edited the remix section and placed some stupid stuff on there. You might want to have a look at it. I started to fix it but I don't feel like being bothered.
[edit] What music store?
"the song replaced Carey's perenially popular holiday single "All I Want for Christmas Is You" (1994) at number one on the iTunes Music Store"
I think all music stores have different charts, im presuming this refers to the US charts. Anyone know?
[edit] #1 on Brasil??
Don't think so... Not only I never seen the video on MTV but I never heard it on the radios... thank God!!
Honestly, Mimi's current single in Brasil is "Shake It Off"... so how in the hecks name did "Don't Forget About Us" charted and landed at #1? Plus I don't even think that we have a HOT 100 single chart...
