Talk:Dollz
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I am a bit surprised that all doll sites were removed and all forums are still there. Why would we suddenly give forums more weight than doll sites/communities? I agree that section has to be filtered often and a lot, however it was not originally created to only discuss doll forums.... I think we should discuss the option of adding some of the major community/doll sites.
- You have to realize that the dolling forums are the communities. When you have privately owned doll sites on the list you bring up the issue of subjectivity. Dolling has gotten so much variety as a style these days that it's hard to put down one particular site and say that that site somehow revolutionized dolling.
I removed the link to the Moonlight Garden forum. Links to forums should be avoided according to Wikipedia guidelines and this one is closed to members. At the very least, forums should be open to read without being a member. --Ingaemm 13:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm removing the link to the Gathering forum then, as it's viewing is also limited by membership. As for major community/doll sites, how do you define one as major? Forums you could limit by number of members, say 1,000 or whatever, but you can't say any one person has contributed more to dolling than another really. Depending on who you talk to nowadays, so many people started dolling after looking at smaller sites instead of the few really big ones that were around 5-8 years ago.
I think the links are fine as they are now, Origin of Dolls and a Tutorial Search Engine. Both are helpful and add something to the article. --Ingaemm 10:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- HM.... Inga, think we can still find some true big dollz sites around :) but I think I am ok with links now (User: alex/jess ;) )
[edit] Forum Links
Being one of the owners of WTM, I changed our external link description from, "A popular forum owned by some of the most well-known dollers," to, "A PG-rated forum owned by Shouri and Sally B." Hope no one minds too much, and thanks to whoever put us there in the first place. ^^~ Sally B 18:20, 26 October 2006
[edit] The Expanded Version
The page was looking a bit short and miserable so I updated it a bit... it's mainly my experiences as a doller so if anyone has any issues with what I've written, you can let me know here or on my talk page. Cheers. :) Icecradle 17:55, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Oh, and none of the external linked sites belong to me. Icecradle 17:59, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Updated it, fixed spelling and grammatical mistakes, organised it into legibility, expanded on the history, developed section on bases, expanded on issues. ~yani, 12.52pm 13 March 2006
[edit] Remove external links or pick just one as an example?
People are abusing external links to plug their own sites, this does not look good as it is.
A link to the article was recently posted on a large dolling forum, many of the members of which don't seem to understand that Wikipedia is not a forum for self-promotion. Speaking as someone who's been dolling for several years I'd recommend removing the whole list. At the moment it's an embarassment. - T
Why remove the link to Eden Enchanted? It's the most popular dolling forum on the web, therefore I think it would be a perfectly valid addition to the article.
Removed the link to Eden Enchanted. The forums can not be read without being a member and they are not open to new members.--Ingaemm 12:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I put the link to Originz of Dollz back, as it's supposed to be the person who invented dollz. Nobody else takes credit for this, and their story seems solid, so I'm inclined to believe them, or at least let them have a link.
- I think the section is pretty fine for now, with all of the links being well-known sites, with the possible exception of Moonlight Garden, which I'd never heard about until I saw the link, but it does seem to be a pretty large forum. So maybe the tag could be removed? Elanorea 16:56, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I really hate it when people add their own sites in. Everyone knows. Let's face it--we have a pixel shader (Angy Chan), a tool shader (Suzy of DHF) and Xandorra, whose tutorials and resources are very popular with beginner dollers. Anyone else isn't as good, and that's a fact.
- People are still adding their dolls sites to this page. Do we really need a link to Eclectic Blue, and DEAC? I don't see how these sites are relevant. I've edited out Sas and the City cus it was written as 'Very famous dolls site...' which is clearly untrue, and seemed pointless to the links section. I think some of these links need to go. We should have Angy, Xandorra, DHF and possibly Josie. That's it. No others. -M
- I think the links we have now are fine, with the possible exception of "Blue Ribbon", which doesn't seem to be a very large forum. Anyway, I propose that we remove the clean-up tag and replace it with a note saying "Please do not add any links to this section without first discussing on the talk page." or something similar. 80.235.61.165 15:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Agreed.
- Alright, I did the replace, and also removed a link to a forum that had closed down (Tequila Sunrise). Elanorea 15:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed.
[edit] Sas and the City?
A very famous dolls site? Is it? Are we sure the owner of this site didn't just put that there? I've edited it out, because I don't think it's relevant to the links area.
