Talk:Dollar (United States coin)

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Contents 1 Heading just to put this under the TOC 2 True or false?? 3 I can't find it 4 Fiscal impact 5 Trade dollars 6 Section Headers 7 1996/1997 silver dollar coins?? 8 Historical Dollar stats 9 Intro 10 Presidential Dollar Coin Program 11 Sacagaweas in casinos? 12 More pictures needed? 13 Infobox 14 Dollar coins in vending machines and parking meters

[edit] Heading just to put this under the TOC

It appears that the coin might replace the $1 bill almost completely that soon the $1 bill might get out of circulation. As a result of this combined with the fact that Alexander Hamilton is no longer as well-remembered as he was back in 1928, the year that follows whatever year this happens (I believe it might be sometime around 2020) might be a time to change the portraits on the bills as follows:

The $2 bill changes from Thomas Jefferson to George Washington

The $5 bill changes from Abraham Lincoln to Thomas Jefferson

The $10 bill changes from Alexander Hamilton to Abraham Lincoln

The $20, $50, and $100 bills, however, will not change portraits.

What are your votes??

Washington on the dollar coin and the $5 bill (thus, keeping the pattern of Washington on the highest generally circulating coin and the smallest generally circulating bill). Lincoln bumped up to the $10 and the quarter (dropping the penny), Hamilton bumped up to the $20 (or Lincoln bumped up to the $20, Hamilton staying on the $10). The $50 and $100 stay the same. Another idea - Washington on the $20 bill, Lincoln on the $1 coin, again, killing the penny Nik42 06:27, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and while we're at it, let's add a $500 bill. And make our bills prettier Nik42 06:29, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think it's quite a demotion for Washington to go from the one-dollar bill to the two-dollar bill. --Bkell 18:31, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Surely being on a higher denomination (curculating) bill is more desirable? otherwise why not put old George on the cent coin MrWeeble 23:16, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Why would anyone want to put George Washington on the cent coin?? He is already on the quarter coin and it is silly for there to be 2 coins with the same portrait.

MrWeeble, no one in the United States ever uses two-dollar bills. They are considered rarities. --Bkell 21:17, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Get rid of the $2 bill, and switch to a $2 coin, similar to the Toonie. And put MLK on it. -Traal 09:02, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

My vote is that they kill the Sacajawea dollar. I hate coins so much. -Branddobbe 09:18, Mar 5, 2004 (UTC)

Branddobbe, please don't say such a naughty thing. Please say instead, "I don't like coins because..." with a detailed explanation.

Would you rather use bills for everything, even cents? Nik42 06:17, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I like how Brasil has it. R$1 and R$2 bills, as well as a R$1 coin. I absolutly hate the british/euro system of 5 being the lowest bill.Jamesinclair 06:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] True or false??

True or false: The next kind of dollar coin after Sacagawea will enter circulation in 2005. 66.245.7.175 20:07, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

What I'm hearing indicates something to that effect. A nice rotating design to sucker in the coin collectors, the only market dollar coins seem to have right now. Why can't they just stop printing the bills? --Alexwcovington 16:32, 21 May 2004 (UTC)

See Save the Greenback. There are entrenched special interests against getting rid of the dollar bill. — Nathanlarson32767 (Talk) 03:21, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

You mean, all of U.S. currency should be just coins?? 66.245.107.192 23:57, 21 May 2004 (UTC)

I could go for that!  :-) Though, I seriously doubt it'd ever happen. Nor did it seem to me that Alexcovington was suggesting that, just for the $1 (which is a rather low denomination to have a bill for, IMHO - especially when you consider that, with the exception of the fractional currency of the Civil War era, the $1 has consistently been our smallest bill, despite significant inflation) Nik42 06:17, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I can't find it

I want to check for a look to the Presidential act of 2004 that talks about a proposed plan for future dollar coins. 66.32.246.73 01:40, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Fiscal impact

I wasn't sure where the best place in the article would be for fiscal impact info, but it seems like an important thing to mention, since that was a major rationale for reintroducing the coin. — Nathanlarson32767 | (Talk) 07:30, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Trade dollars

We need a section on Trade dollars. Though no longer legal tender (I think -- need to double-check my history there) they are a significant element of U.S. coinage history and definitely deserve a mention on this page. Because they saw fairly little American circulation, they've largely been forgotten by collectors. —chris.lawson (talk) 00:20, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Section Headers

Please leave the format of the section headers in the form:

Coin series (date begun–date discontinued)

It's this way in every single other U.S. coin article because that's the accepted numismatic convention, and consistency in this regard is important.

Thanks.—chris.lawson (talk) 23:06, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Where should be place the debate about phasing out the paper dollar and replacing it with the dollar coin? This issue is important. 24.54.208.177 01:38, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 1996/1997 silver dollar coins??

I have a couple of supposed silver dollar coins, one has 1996 and the other has 1997 on them. But according to this article, none were minted between 1981 and 1999. What gives? --69.234.185.170 20:07, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Are they Silver Eagles? I guess you can say they are technically coins since they have a denomination and you could spend them for a dollar if the unreal happened and Silver dropped below the face value, but they are more like certified buillion tokens. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 23:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Historical Dollar stats

Since the dollar coin has changed in size and composition so much during its history, I think it owuld be interesting for each older dollar to have its size, weight, and metal composition listed.

Also, does anyone know why the Mogan and Peace dollar had more silver per face value than the halves, quarters, and dimes of the same period (which were all the same as each other)?

[edit] Intro

The intro definitely needs rephrasing, but to make "silver dollar" the bold phrase in the first sentence is definitely not how to do it (since this article is "United States dollar coin", not "Silver dollar"). I have my own ideas, but I'd like to see some suggestions here from others before I taint anyone's opinion with my own. ;) --chris.lawson 01:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Sloppy of me, I was redirected from Silver dollar and wasn't thinking. The second paragraph does follow the manual of style, though, in that it says "Sub-Foo is a thing of type Foo, class Foo2." The current first pararaph doesn't do that. Happy to do some back and forth on the main page until we get one we like, or do you prefer do do it here? - brenneman^(t)(c) 02:15, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Presidential Dollar Coin Program

The next coins after Sacagawea will enter circulation in 2007. Sacagawea will continue to be minted. All Susan B. Anthony dollar coins and any older (if left) will be removed from circulation. Because the bill is now law, you legally can't get a dollar bill at any place that gets a penny of federal money from 2007 onward throughout the program. though I do not want to venture outside the topic, I'm going to discussion a little. The Feds have pretty much decided to get rid of the $2 bill and half dollar. These ideas are not very popular, but virtual reality. However, the idea of removing the penny and dollar bill is very popular. The dollar bill is dead man walking with this bill. It is gone. The penny will probably be gone after 2009 because the bill says that the penny has to be redesigned after 2009 IF it is to be minted at all. So the penny is gone too. BTW, the portraits won't be moved. This is in order to avoid another Reagan discussion.

(a) No dollar coins will be removed from circulation as a result of the Presidential $1 Coin Act of 2005.

(b) No one will be prohibited by the Act from dispensing dollar bills. The Act requires entities receiving federal money to be able to receive and dispense dollar coins by January 1, 2008, and to display that they have that capability. This explicitly includes vending machines. But requiring them to accept and dispense coins does not prohibit them from accepting and dispensing bills.

(c) Nothing in the Act mentions the $2 bill or the fifty-cent coin.

(d) The Act does not call into question the minting of the penny after 2009. The Act gives direction as to the design of the penny after 2009.

Jwolfe 06:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sacagaweas in casinos?

I've never seen a dollar slot machine that uses Sacagaweas (or Susan B. Anthonys or old-school dollar coins, for that matter) - all the casinos I've ever been to seem to use large, heavy gold-colored tokens (see casino token) instead.

However, casinos are the only place I've ever seen half-dollars in circulation, both for the slots and to payoff blackjacks on $5 tables (instead of using $2.50 tokens). Lordsutch 05:50, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More pictures needed?

Does anyone agree that it would be useful to have more pictures in this article? A great many different dollar coins are mentioned, and some of them have links to articles about those coins, but only a few have pictures on this page. I think this article needs more pictures. Perhaps if some were copied from the other articles?

I see someone has added some pictures. Thanks.

[edit] Infobox

Is there anyway we can edit the infobox to be more informative about the general denomination of the Dollar than being strictly exclusive to the Sackie??--293.xx.xxx.xx 22:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dollar coins in vending machines and parking meters

In the past week I've found that the dollar coin is accepted in parking meters (Atlanta) and in a soda vending machine distributing Coca-Cola products in the ground floor of my building. I think that it's worth including a sentence stating that vending machines and parking meters now accept the dollar coin, since many people seem to think that the coin cannot be used. I tried to amend the entry yesterday but I see that it's been deleted, presumably by the person at Wikipedia that is responsible for maintaining this article.

Thank goodness the parking meter accepted the dollar coin last week, because I certainly couldn't have put paper money in the meter, and I didn't have enough smaller coins to pay for more than 5 - 10 minutes. Try it yourself and see if it works for you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 170.140.191.128 (talk • contribs).

While there may indeed be some parking meters and vending machines that accept dollar coins, any claim implying that many or most of them accept the coins -- which is precisely what your edit stated -- absolutely needs a citation from a reliable source. Once you (or anyone else) can provide that, I'll be happy to have it returned to the article.--chris.lawson 21:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

If a veteran wikipedian writes down what he/she observes from there he/she lives, does that count? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Merely because one metropolitan area in the US has converted some (or even most) of its vending machines to accept dollar coins doesn't mean that the dollar coin is generally accepted in the US. Furthermore, that sure sounds like original research to me. I'd prefer to see a citation of an external source on this.--chris.lawson 07:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)