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[edit] Project Banners

There can be more than one project banners on a page. Please do not remove project banners if they are talked about on the page. Cbrown1023 16:13, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to delete this message. The page that you removed the banner from was Talk:The Lower Depths (1957 film), it was a redirect from Talk:The Lower Depths, don't worry, I undid the redirect. But you should be careful about that in the future. Cbrown1023 22:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm confused about what happened... it was this morning and now I'm confused... so just disregard my previous messages. Cbrown1023 22:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Doing a good job

For working hard.
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For working hard.

Just dropped by to tell you I saw you out working hard, doing the tasks that others often shun, and I wanted you to know that it is appreciated. If there is anything I can do to be of assistance to you, please let me know. Essjay (Talk) 06:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Zigeunerweisen.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Zigeunerweisen.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 15:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] A follow up note on the CC

Hello Cop 633 and Doctor Sunshine. I wanted to touch base with you since some time has gone by and nobody has responded to our last posts on the Wikiproject films page about this subject. First off, I know that you both like these and I suspect that may feel that I have been a pest about this subject. I must apologize because that was not my intention. My first motivation was to try and prevent the bummed out feeling that can happen when one does a ton of work only to have it all deleted. This was based on having had it happen to me and on having seen the Criterion Collection deleted as a category twice before. Knowing how much work was going to go into posting the box on all of the CC's films pages, and wanting to catch it as soon as possible, I had posted a note on the talk page of an administrator who had deleted the category once before on October 24th. There was no response form the person. Then an anonymous user began deleting the boxes and leaving a rather emphatic edit summary about it. That was when you began restoring them, Doctor Sunshine. Knowing that you were working away Cop 633, and suspecting that the reasons that had been given to delete the category before would more than likely be used to, eventually, remove your boxes I then went to the wikiproject films page to try to get some movement on the subject. I had hoped that someone in charge there would contact you, but I realize now that I should have done so from the start so I also apologize for that rudeness. The somewhat slow nature of the filmproject people to this now makes me feel that, if I hadn't brought it up maybe nobody would have and that all I have done is rain on your parade and I just want to say again that was not my intention.

I do appreciate the Criterion Collection's product and have made several postings at IMDb trying to point out that the price of their releases is more that offset by the cost of, and the research to both restore the films AND find all of the extraordinary extras that appear on, their DVD's when compared to most other companies product. To that end I want to further the one of the suggestions that was made at the wikifilm project page about adding a DVD release section to the films in question. I think it would be easy to include a link to the List of Criterion Collection releases when mentioning them, along with ony other comapnies that may have released the film, in the body of that section, thereby leading readers to all of their films and not just the one that comes before and the one after the number on the spine and avoiding the look of pushing their product over others.

One last thing. If, in the proposed new section, you do mention the extras on their discs (and they ARE worth mentioning. I mean have either of you seen the four or five interviews with Truffuat about his film Jules and Jim which were recorded over the space of 15 or 20 years? It is fascinating to watch his appreciation of his own film deepen over time. Also, before I forget it, have you seen the new subtitles on the recent release of Seven Samurai? I have seen this film more than 80 times in my life yet these gave me so much more of the film that it was as though I had never truly experienced it before) I would suggest that you only list two or three of the most important ones, as listing them all may smack of advertising their product again.

As to removing the boxes you have already entered, as nobody else seems to be in a hurry about it I won't interfer. Maybe you could remove them as you finish a DVD paragraph for each film.

Onc last time my apologies for any hurt feelings and keep up the good work that you are both doing here at wikipedia. Thanks for your time and attention and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 16:36, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I also want to thank you for trying to get the THE removed from the Seven Samurai page. It is one of those niggling things and your taking the "bull by the horns" is much appreciated. MarnetteD | Talk 16:36, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kiyoshi Kurosawa

Hello again. I saw the note you (briefly) left on my talk page, and I wanted to warn you about a potential problem. In order to use the photo, we have to have permission for anyone to use the photo (including for profit), not just Wikipedia. It's complicated, and if you already know this, then cool, I don't have to repeat the whole thing. If you don't understand, ask me and I'll explain the confusing policy to you. Just make sure that you have permission for anyone to use the image, not just Wikipedia exclusively. All the best, – Quadell (talk) (random) 19:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Off project

Hi Doctor Sunshine, glad you are taking part in film project discussions. Was your mention of undemocratic on the issue of defining film importance? I am still trying to find clues, so I would like to give you some examples of how I would assess some films' importance. I am no film critic, have not studied cinema, but wish to do some good gnoming in films and would appreciate your comments.
Top: In Dreams (film) / The Last Temptation of Christ / Cet obscur objet du désir / Being There / The Fisher King (film)
Hi: Kiss of the Spider Woman / The State of Things (film) / Down by Law (film) / The Mouse That Roared / A Fish Called Wanda
Middle: Blood Simple / Zardoz / Tommy (film) / Grumpier Old Men / Clockwise (film)
Hoverfish 21:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, glad to help out. Both importance an class are undemocratic with the exception of Top and FA respectively (and GAs must be nominated). Most project pages say they can be set by any member but really whether or not you add your name to the list they'll be glad to have some assistance. Regarding importance, Top needs to be discussed on the appropriate project page before you assign that but, for film, anything between No and High is fair game. So to take your examples,
  • In Dreams, I haven't seen but it got a 5.2 on the IMDb, won no major awards, and I'm not a big fan of the director, however he's directed some important films so I'd rank it Mid. The rest are all great, important films and are by important directors, so they would get a minimum rank of High. I would even go so far as to say they qualify for Top but you should discuss it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films first.
  • Kiss of the Spider Woman I haven't seen so I'd go to the IMDb again and it has a high rating and won a lot of awards including an Oscar so Mid or High, I've at least heard of it so I'd agree with High. The State of Things I haven't see but it's Wim Wenders so I'd give him a High by default unless it's something terrible like The End of Violence (Mid). Down by Law, most definitely High. Peter Seller's qualifies Mouse and anything as well loved as A Fish Called Wanda qualifies.
  • Blood Simple I would rank High because the Coen brothers are so influential and it's a great film. Zardoz I didn't care for but because it's got a cult following Mid sounds about right. Tommy I liked okay and it's got an even bigger cult following so either Mid or High, I agree with Mid. Grumpier Old Men, yes, Mid. Clockwise I haven't seen but anything with a Python gets at least a Mid as it fills in details.
Low is for terrible and marginal films. No importance is for film related templates and categories etc. So as you can see it's a very intuitive and subjective process. If anyone disagrees with you they can always change it or discuss it on the talk page. Not a big deal. I usually try to add any additional project banners, most counties have banners, as do horror films and anime, WWII and Japanese folklore, etc. but importance scales may vary, for example most of Akira Kurosawa's films would be high but in terms of film but on WikiProject Japan (WPJ) most of them are only Mid with the exception of the big stuff. Anyway, you're on the right track. For more information go here, Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Criteria#Importance of topic, or you can browse through here, Category:Film articles by importance. Well, I've rambled on long enough. Hope that helps. Doctor Sunshine 01:18, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes it helps me a lot, thanks for your feedback. Hoverfish 07:54, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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