User talk:Dknights411

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Zzyzx11 23:21, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Rampage

Back in April, you tagged the San Antonio Rampage as needed clean up. I just did a major reformat. Is there a procedure to get it de-listed?? ccwaters 18:27, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Trinity University

Hey, the pictures you put up on the TU page look great -- especially the infobox shot of the Stadium Drive entrance. Thanks for putting in the work for that, great job. Deadsalmon 21:47, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 page

rotflmfao!!!!! Kudos to you for removing that thomas the tank engine section from the page!!!! Adamwankenobi 00:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Basketball

Ahh...you don't understand. My project is not about the NBA- it's about basketball, past and present, not just the NBA, but the NBDL, the ABA, and leagues all over the world and streetball. --WikiFanaticTalk 1:58, 18 Sep 2005 (CDT)

[edit] Past NBA seasons

Just a friendly reminder -- you're doing great work on creating past NBA season articles, but the seasons have already happened, so be sure to use past tense when describing them. You've been using "is" rather than "was" in the intro sentence on a lot of them. :) —chris.lawson (talk) 04:10, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for 1984-85 NBA season

Hello, good work on 1984-85 NBA season, and thanks for the contribution. However, you did not provide any references or sources in the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. From what websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to 1984-85 NBA season? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? You can simply add links, or see WP:CITET if you wish to review some of the different citation methods. Thanks!  BRIAN0918  01:40, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Boston Celtics

I noticed that you removed the final paragraph in the Franchise History section because the Spurs can claim the same thing. I re-added the paragraph, but it now read like this:

"As of 2005 the Celtics have never lost a Game 7 in the NBA Finals. They are a perfect 7-0 in these games, winning in 1957, 1960, 1962, 1966, 1969, 1974, and 1984."

It's sort of an interesting fact, so I think it should stay, but it no longer says that the celtics are the only team. Thanks, and see you around the wiki --Alhutch 05:25, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Detroit Pistons

I'm sorry you're a bitter, bitter San Antonio fan, but don't mess with my Pistons article to try to make yourself feel better... Now I have to go deface the Spurs article!  ;)

First time I've had someone react emotionally to a Wiki edit. I wish there were more personal interaction around here... It would make for more motivation to keep making improvements. Maybe I should edit a pro-life/pro-choice article?  :)

Tmassey 04:59, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1998-99 NBA season

Hi Dknights411. Listen, I need some help with the 1998-99 NBA season article. An editor made some changes in the article -- changing the start date from January 2005 to February 5 2005, and noting that there was no all-star game and that some teams only played each other once. The problem is, this editor has vandalized a bunch of articles, so I'm kind of leery of him. I'd be very interested to know if his edits are correct, because if so they would be his first useful edits, which could have bearing on his case. Also of course I want the article to be correct. I couldn't find anything right away about the correct start date for the season. Anyway, when you get a chance, if you could take a look at that article and fix it (if it needs it) and maybe let me know if those edits were accurate, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Herostratus 22:14, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lucky you

Hmmm, I see you have User:64.107.220.153 on your case at 1998-99 NBA season. I don't know why he's picking on that article, but who can tel with him? He's either actually demented or a clever troll pretending to be demented. The whole sad story is here. Anyway, I think the may be trolling and making subtle but incorrect changes to dates, so I reverted all his stuff. He may attack using similar IPs close to the one he has used so far (he vandalizes from the Chicago Public Library). He's been reported many times, but the wheels move slowly here. Don't let him bait you with his vandalism schtick, just revert him. Herostratus 02:17, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I feel your pain. This guy has been watching way too much Time Cube. Apparently they don't want to block his IP range because that would block all the public terminals at the library, which they don't want to do, according to one admin I talked to. Hopefully he'll go on to Quantum Physics or something in awhile, hang in there. Herostratus 17:25, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Sheesh, really. Maybe we need a support group. He does seem to be slowing down, though. I wrote to the Chicago Library to see if they can track him down, no reply yet... Herostratus 04:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC) PS VANDAL!!!!!!! =)

[edit] Manu Ginobili

Hey Knights! Thanks for looking over the Manu Ginobili page. I oroginated that page so that everyone could know him, but also following wikipedia's holiest rule. (Ok thats point of view in that sentence lol). I am very appreciative of your help.

As bad as it looks now, it looked much worse. But I think the point of view issues could be the work of a rookie, I mean, look at the Wilfredo Gomez page, go to the page's history and when you go to the bottom, you'll see I created it and you'll see how extremely POV it was. It was, of course, my first article here and I had no idea about the Holy rule then.

Anyways, thanks so much for watching out for that page while I keep writing new articles. God bless you!!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Nice View (not1) Martin

[edit] Image Tagging Image:P1010005.JPG

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Sorry about that. I see it now that you pointed it out. Have you ever thought about adding a good summary like the Commons template? Example Image:Travis courthouse 2005.jpg -Nv8200p talk 03:55, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re The Vandal

Well, jeez. Yeah its not funny anymore, is it. That sucks. I wrote to Fred Bauder, Curps, Greg Ashe, and AJK tonight, appealing for a long-term block on this guy. The library... they wrote back, saying OK you need to write to this other guy... I'm like (to myself) um, couldn't you have just forwarded the message... I'm not optimimistic that they can or will help. Yes, legal action is possible against vandalistic users... I don't know if Wikipedia has actually done that, I think they have, but I don't suppose they will in this case, I'm sure that the Library would never reveal the guy's identity even if the do go so far as to determine it. I just want his library card revoked. Man I'm sorry you have to deal with all this. Herostratus 08:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article creation

I have been looking through the list of unwatched pages (available only to administrators) and found 1953-54 NBA season and others. I see that you created this but were not watching it. You may want to go to your preferences and under the "editing" tab turn on "Add pages you edit to your watchlist". This will enable you to keep an eye out for any edits that are made to pages you create and help to revert vandalism. If you do decide to turn it on can you please drop me a note on my talk page so I can cut down my excessive watchlist (6000+). Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 18:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:57, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Barnstar for you!

I, EWS23, hereby award Dknights411 the Tireless Contributor Barnstar for his countless and valuable contributions to NBA-related pages. Keep up the good work! 06:58, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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I, EWS23, hereby award Dknights411 the Tireless Contributor Barnstar for his countless and valuable contributions to NBA-related pages. Keep up the good work! 06:58, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi! We've met a few times on Spurs-related and NBA-related pages, and I've been very impressed with your work on Wikipedia. Whenever I see your name in my watchlist, I never have to worry about whether it's a quality edit or not. For that reason (among many others), I'd like to award you this barnstar! Feel free to move/copy it to your user page. Congrats, and keep up the good work! EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 06:58, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

It's my pleasure. If you keep up the good work I'm sure it won't be your last. :o) EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 22:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NBA Arenas

The reason I put it in the info boxes was because I saw the MLB and NFL info boxes have them as well. Looking the Sonics page, they do have a home arenas list towards the top of the page. I'll do something similar with the rest of the NBA teams. Patken4 18:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forum/Great Wester Forum

No, the building's *official* name is no longer "Great Western" Forum. It's just The Forum. (I live literally just around the corner from it.) Mwelch 00:19, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

No, the building's *original* name was just "The Forum". In 1988 it was re-christend the Great Western Forum. But the Lakers played there for 20 years under the original name of just "The Forum", then only 10 years under Great Western Forum. And, as I mentioned, the name today has been restored to the original "The Forum". True about the Montreal issue, but that's why the link is disambiguated to the page "The Forum (Inglewood, California)" Mwelch 00:19, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the non-signing. I did know that, I just (all to often) seem to forget! 8-) Anyhow, the "Great Western" name came from a savings and loan (no longer in existence) called "Great Western". The get-a-company-to-pay-us-to-name-our-stadium/arena-after-them tactic is now commonplace, but the Lakers were actually the first major team to do this. It was just that most people outside of here in L.A. didn't *know* that that's where the name change came from because "Great Western Forum" sounded like something you might ahve called it anyway. I'll look at the page again and indeed seeing about adding an AKA or something like that. Good suggestion! Mwelch 00:19, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and by the way, The Forum (ours) was built by then-Laker owner Jack Kent Cooke. He was Canadian, so though I don't know it for a fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he was indeed influenced by *your* Forum in choosing his name. he was from Ontario, not Quebec, but still . . . just some useless trivia for you. LOL Mwelch 00:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Staples vs. STAPLES

I hadn't noticed that (media vs. what's on the web site). Definitely wasn't a POV change for me, as I actually don't even like the all-caps look. I just thought, given that it came from the source, that would be what was considered correct. But your point to the contrary is well-taken. I'll work on reverting the damage I've done as my time permits.

Thanks for setting me straight! Mwelch 22:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats

Nice little article in the San Antonio Express-News. I realise I'm a bit late, but thought you'd appreciate some notice anyways. Congrats, and thank you for spreading the word on Wikipedia. Any good press we can get is always appreciated. Thanks again. --LV (Dark Mark) 18:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of logos in non-Fair Use contexts

Heya,

I've stumbled over your disagreement over how we use (Fair Use) logos in non-applicable contexts, most notably this edit of yours. I have to say, I strongly disagree with your reading both of long-standing English Wikipedia policy, and the legal constraints under which the Wikimedia Foundation (the hoster, and thus a legally responsible party, along with yourself, in the event that "we" are sued for misuse of copyrighted images without permission) must operate, namely the Fair Use provisions of United States copyright law. Ed's edits appear to be entirely justified, and I think that it certainly doesn't help Wikipedia for you to have reverted him as you have done. I have urged him to discuss this with you a little more, but please don't un-do such edits, by him or anyone else, in future; discuss first is always a good policy. :-)

Yours,

James F. (talk) 15:21, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

The fair use policy is not primarily based on Wikipedia's legal issues, but it's philosophy of being a free encyclopædia. That means free for anyone else to use in whichever they wish. This is why we have a strict policy with regards to fair use images. You may disagree, but this a long-standing policy.
With regards to "meaning that the image can be used on WIKIPEDIA, not just on one aricle", this is incorrect. Fair use claims must be made for each use of a copyright image. There have even been proposals to modify the software to enforce this. Your images are non-essential in this context, and therefore will be removed. ed g2s • talk 21:13, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
The fair use policy also permits use of unfree images in certain circumstances where a free image is not possible, which in this case it obviously is not. Wikipedia's fair use rules are strict but not absolute. Essentiality is arguable; very few images are essential to anything. They are useful here. I would argue that the images have been de facto accepted, even encouraged, as free for trivial promotional like this use by the league. But I'll ask Steve Block; he'll know. Herostratus 00:12, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I do apologise if I have appeared short in my edit summaries. They are not aimed at you personally, but are intended as reference to anyone confused by the removal. ed g2s • talk 05:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: logos

Hi Dknights. Congrats on your fame BTW. And also on shaking loose of the George Reeves guy, it looks like. What a ride that was. Anyway, I asked Steve Block to take a look. He'll know what's right. Herostratus 00:15, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

  • He's some hotshot associated with Wikipedia:WikiProject Fair Use, I think. He's pretty sympathetic to fair user borderline uses, and if he's not a lawyer he argues like one, he talked me in circles at a recent IfD. I don't for sure if he'll respond. If not, the Fiar Use project linked above is the place to get assistance, I think. Herostratus 00:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Excellent Job on NBA Playoffs article

Hey, I just wanted to say EXCELLENT job on the article 2006 NBA Playoffs. The brackets are nice and the schedule is laid out neatly. Great job! Cheesehead Fan 22:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

And good luck to your Spurs in their quest for a repeat! Cheesehead Fan 19:03, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Washington Nationals established

Hi, saw you reverted the category to 2005. I started a discussion about it on the page, come over and add your two cents. I think it should be 1969, as the franchise was established then, and was moved and renamed in 2005. The franchise records and thing still carry over from 1969. We could add both categories, however. Anyway, check out the Washington Nationals talk page and add your opinion. Thanks. --Awiseman 17:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Allen Iversion.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, Allen Iverson.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. The conditions listed in the {{Magazinecover}} copyright tag which was applied do not seem consistent with the image's use in the Allen Iverson article. Mwelch 20:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

The tag says pretty clear that for it to be fair use, the image has to be used to illustrate the publication of that issue of the magazine. It's pretty clear that it the Allen Iverson article (the only article that uses this image), it's not being used that way. It's being used to illustrate Iverson himself, not to illustrate that issue of the magazine. The magazine is not mentioned anywhere in the article, much less that particular issue of the magazine being mentioned or discussed. So it's pretty tough to argue, I think, that that image is being used to illustrate publication of that issue of the magazine. Mwelch 20:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


Yes, I understand. It's frustrating (which is one of the reasons I never upload pictures, myself; if I didn't take the pic myself, then it's too hard to try to stay within all the rules). But it's also understandable. Pictures are copyrighted works. If Wikipedia doesn't at least make a legitimate and thorough attempt to abide copyright law, then it makes the Wikipedia Foundation a potential target for legal action. Espeically if, at some point, the Foundation tries to commercialize Wikipedia itself in some fashion. Mwelch 22:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good

I appreciate and I agree with you on neutrality,you reverted the Toni Mannix article to correct version that vandal Mak reverted. But we need to be more careful what neutrality really means...it changes over time. G Reeves guy

[edit] NBA season

If you agree or not, does not matter, but they made a mistake in that season, many teams did not play each other, there were 50 games, somebody told me this, think...back then we had 29 (i lived in texas at that time) teams, right, each division should have played each other once and once the opposite division, that would amount to 42 games for the east, 41 for the west. 41 games would have been the norm.

[edit] %

Let me know if you agree 61% is important in comparing 50 games to regular 82 season. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1998-99_NBA_season&diff=61929583&oldid=61929537

[edit] Ben Wallace

Don't you agree that Ben Wallace is a greedy m-f'er for leaving the Pistons for a few more million? The dude cant put up a shot, let alone make a free throw for his life!

In any case, I'd rather have Shaq. Better yet, since Ben bolted, if Joe D can get KG, I'd dumb Sheed. Tay, Chaunce, Rip, and KG? Wow, I can only imagine what they could do together.

[edit] Date

Is important, 4:1 means 5 games played, so nobody will assume it was one day event.

[edit] 1998-99 NBA season

I semi-protected this article, and as far as I'm concerned it can stay semi-protected forever, since the George Reeves Guy doesn't show any signs of going away. Who knew that this would turn out to be one of Wikipedia's most contested articles? Herostratus 03:39, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use

The decoration restriction is only for unfree images. It exists becase a) often such uses are not covered by fair use law and b) they are unnecessary on a project that is trying to provide free content. This is where your priorities differ from Wikipedia's. ed g2s • talk 10:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Just incase you didn't understand, emblems are owned by the club and are not free as a result, flags are not owned by the country and are free. Philc TECI 21:04, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NBA logos

Various NBA team logo images that you uploaded are being nominated for deletion at WP:IfD. I've replaced most NBA logos (not just the ones you uploaded) with better quality PNG images. Punctured Bicycle 08:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ben Wallace

Let's suppose, hypothetically for a second, that before the 06-07 NBA Season starts, one of the following things happens:

  1. Wallace gets traded to a different team
  2. Wallace suffers a career-ending injury
  3. The Bulls (with Wallace) move to another city and change their name.

I realize that these are unlikely scenarios. If any of these things did happen, it would be a well-known fact that he never "played for the Chicago Bulls". I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I suggest that he should be added to the category whenever the game clock starts running with him on the floor, tip-off most likely. Other people may disagree, so maybe we need to seek wider input. If we can reach some kind of compromise, we can change the text of all the categories to match, etc. and never have lame edit wars like that again. I don't mean just for basketball, i mean for any "[Sports Team] players" category. — Jul. 14, '06 [03:23] <freak|talk>

Indeed, Lenny Bias is not in Category:Boston Celtics players or Category:National Basketball Association players as he died before the season started. — Jul. 14, '06 [13:21] <freak|talk>

[edit] unbe-freaken-lievable

Hi Dknights, got your note. Sheesh. This guy has come to the attention of Jimbo. In fact, Jimbo himself asked me to lay off on the case, because the guy has a special loathing for me and I'm like a red flag to him, I guess. Not sure why because I was way patient and nice with him at first. Anyway, Jimbo has bent way over backward to try to reach some understanding with this person, including removing the Wikipedia: vandalism page that other vandals have. Guess it's not working.

I had semi-protected the 98-99 Season and 99 Finals articles (I can do that now, thanks to the support at my RfA, including yours, thanks!), but I unprotected them in the belief that Jimbo had pursuaded they guy to lay off, but it looks like not. I'll re(semi)protect them and also the 99-00 season. They can stay semi-protected forever as far as I'm concerned...

But other than that I'm not wanting to get involved with the guy much anymore per Jimbo's request. You can still call on me if you need anything, though, like an article protected or whatever, if I don't want to handle it I'll get someone else. Sheesh. Maybe you should work on uncontroversial subjects like politics and religion instead of previous NBA seaons lol... Herostratus 03:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What do you mean not working

Adding word play to played is vandalism dude, shame on you, Dknights, if he realized that was wrong, he would always revert, this time he did not, so do not call this vandalism, because you are the vandal, if you do not know proper grammar and past tense, what can I do?

[edit] Barnstarred!

The Resilient Barnstar, awarded to Dknights411 for putting up with prolonged and persistant attacks from the George Reeves Vandal without losing his cool.
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The Resilient Barnstar, awarded to Dknights411 for putting up with prolonged and persistant attacks from the George Reeves Vandal without losing his cool.

[edit] New York Knickerbockers

I called the Knicks' office in New York, and they told me that their name is officially still the "New York Knickerbockers." Do we want to "keep it simple," or do we want to keep it accurate? After all, we don't list the Boston team as the "Celts," the Philadelphia team as the "Sixers" or the Minnesota team as the "T-Wolves." An encyclopedia is supposed to impart knowledge. If most people outside of New York City are unaware that "Knicks" is short for "Knickerbockers," then isn't Wikipedia doing its job by setting the record straight? --MCB, 7/23/2006

Response to your email of 7/23/2006:

The fact that the team's logo calls them "New York Knicks" is not sufficient reason to change the team's name on Wikipedia. After all, the Chicago White Sox' logo calls their team the "Sox," the Oakland Athletics' logo calls their team the "A's," and, in the 1980s, the Seattle Mariners' logo called the team the "M's."

And, I certainly wouldn't trust the media to settle this, either. From the late seventies through the early 1990s, no one in the media referred to the baseball team in Oakland as the "Athletics." During that period, the media always called the team the "A's." But the team's official name was, and still is, "Athletics." Lately, some in the media have begun calling the team the "Athletics," but many in the media still refer to the team as the "A's." Likewise, the print media almost always refers to the Diamondbacks as the "D-Backs," rarely calling the team by its full name. And, of course, the best example is the former American League team in Washington. For much of their existence the media referred to the team as the "Senators," even though the team was officially named the "Nationals" until 1957. (I have in my collection two programs from the 1933 World Series. The program sold in the Polo Ground called the team the "Senators," while the program sold at Griffith Stadium called the team the "Nationals.") And, while many in the media refer to the team as the "Knicks," when I lived in the New York area, I often heard the team called the "Knickerbockers."

Not only is "Knickerbockers" officially the team's name, but it actually has a meaning. "Knicks" is a made-up word that doesn't mean anything. "Knickerbocker" is the name given to descendants or the original Dutch settlers of New Amsterdam. It is a logical name for a New York team. And, anyone who sees the name "Knickerbockers," will realize that "Knicks" is short for that name, just like one can logically reason that "Celts" is short for "Celtics," "Phils" is short for "Phillies," or "Cards" is short for "Cardinals."

Again, I would urge you to remember that the point of an encyclopedia (online or elsewhere) is to enlighten readers, not to bow to popular pressure. The team is officially named the "New York Knickerbockers." Wikipedia should recognize that. --MCB, 7/23/2006

PS: I should also mention a television public service annoucement that aired when I was a kid that featured both Willis Reed and Dave DeBusschere. The P.S.A. often ran in late afternoon during children's programing. I can't remember the exact subject of the P.S.A., but, to the best of my memory, it warned children to stay away from any abandoned blasting caps that kids might find. I do remember, however, that in the commercial, the two ballplayers introduced themselves as being from the "New York Knickerbockers." However, in the spirit of goodwill, I revised the Wikipedia text to include both the name "Knicks" and the name "Knickerbockers." I hope you will find this compromise is acceptable to you, and that you will accept it in the spirit that it is given. --MCB, 7/23/2006

You changed it back without even responding to my note. That is not very polite. I will go to the NBA talk page, if you tell me where it is. --MCB, 7/23/2006

[edit] Re:Greg Oden

lol, Yes, I considered putting, "With the first pick in the 2007 NBA Draft, the New York Knicks select Renaldo Balkman." :o) EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 01:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:AK47Dunk.jpg

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[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Spurs05Championship.jpg

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[edit] Trinity pic

Sorry. I deleted the text that was supposed to link to the pic because at the time, Wikipedia was apparently having problems with its image database. I thought there was no such pic. But it has since been restored. Clipper471 03:27, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Well now there seems to be a problem with it again. Clipper471 03:30, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Tim Duncan.jpg)

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Thanks for uploading Image:Tim Duncan.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image can be used under a fair use license. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Ytny 08:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, this image was removed from Tim Duncan and was replaced with a free image. Ytny 08:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logos

At no point have I said that I think you are deliberately damaging Wikipedia, or acting in bad faith. I understand that you all make good contributions, and believe that adding more logos is a Good Thing. You are just wrong. "This is about Wikipedia as a whole, and how not listning to new ideas simply because "It violates wiki-policy" will not only harm wikipedia's potential for growth, bit will deter new users and potential editors from participating on what is otherwise a fantastic project." adding more logos is not a "new idea", if it was, we wouldn't have a policy for it. If users leave because we don't like unfree media, then there's not much we can do about because we're not going to change our policy. ed g2s • talk 13:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Tim Duncan Magazine Cover

I think you misunderstand the point of fair use and your fair use rationale doesn't stand. The reason magazine covers are considered fair use for discussion of magazines is that visual identification is critical for visual media like paintings or architectures or magazine covers. The same doesn't stand for sporting figures. And if it's significant that SI chose to feature Duncan on the cover, saying "Duncan has appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated x times" would do the job.

And when you say "in my mind plays a big part in telling the story of Tim Duncan, because he never gets the press and the publicity of Shaq, Kobe, or LeBron, yet he is a proven winner", you're inserting your own interpretation into the cover. The same point is made better by citing an expert or an otherwise neutral, prominent source in the article.

Whatever the case, the magazine cover certainly doesn't belong in the top of the article and without context. Ytny 15:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm a little confused about what you mean about the constructive criticism. For what it's worth, you don't need the cover image to communicate that Duncan and Robinson won the Sportsmen of the Year when you can just say it, though Sportsman of the Year might be a big enough deal that it's worth including (as opposed to a regular issue during the playoffs). Ytny 20:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Did Ed go too far?

Hey Johntex. I'm sure you are well aware of the logo delima, well it seems that User:Ed g2s has struck again, with a vengence. On his latet round of deletions, he threatened to block anyone who reverts his edits, like on the San Antonio, Texas page for example (not in those words exactly, but still raises an eyebrow). Is this within the boundaries of an administrator, or has Ed gone too far here? Dknights411 19:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe Ed has definitely gone too far. Ed seems to be using a statement by User:Kelly Martin to justify removal of the images. Kelly has made the somewhat extraordinary statement "If you choose to ignore the policy that I have decided is best for Wikipedia, you may find yourself blocked". I don't believe Kelly has any special authority to make such a unilateral decision. Discussion is ongoing here and here. I suggest that continuing to discuss this with Ed will probably not be productive until we first get to the root of the problematic behavior by Kelly Martin. Johntex\talk 19:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, he went a bit overboard. I adominished him. Apparantly there's a bit of a tempest in a teapot blowing over at Wikipedia talk:Logos over a proposed change and/or some remarks Kelly Martin may or may not have heard at the recent Wikimania conference. There was quite a lively discussion into which Kelly inserted the section Enough stating "You are all hereby informed that any admin may block any editor who reverts an edit removing a gallery of team logos from a sports league." That Kelly! Always joking! Anyway, apparantly Ed took this seriously as some sort of directive (as if Wikipedia worked like that! Ed, Ed, Ed!). Anyway, you're not really going to blocked. And there's (another!) RfC for Kelly. Herostratus 03:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually, Kelly Martin just blocked a user for re-inserting images.[1] Johntex\talk 05:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tony Parker image

Hi, just so you know: I took your image of Tony Parker at Image:DSC00474.JPG, cropped it to focus just on him, uploaded it to Commons as Commons:Image:Tony Parker.jpg, and have put it into Tony Parker, de:Tony Parker, fr:Tony Parker, and nl:Tony Parker. User:Angr 18:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links on NBA pages

Hi Dknights, I noticed on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Basketball Association that you mentioned doing an audit of the NBA-related pages to check how relevant the external links are in the articles. Could you do such an audit again when you get the chance? I don't edit the NBA pages much, but I rolled back the addition of links to the Ezekielbearsports forums a few weeks ago, and the owner of their site mentioned that there are other links in the NBA articles that are less relevant but are not being removed. (Here is his message to me.) --Idont Havaname (Talk) 05:42, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:DenverNuggetsRainbowLogo.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:DenverNuggetsRainbowLogo.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 14:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

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