Talk:Disney Sing Along Songs

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[edit] Time for Cleanup

First of all, whoever is deleting songs, please stop. Over the four different series, there have been songs moved or deleted from the various volumes, or in the case of DVD reissues, some songs have been added. These are all clearly marked and noted. If your copy is missing a song, the page will explain why -- don't delete the song from the page!! Second, it does not make sense to include all of the Spanish versions when there is an entire Wikipedia devoted to the Spanish language. These will be moved immediately. Third, it is overkill to include voice credits on every song when the song credits are clearly linked to the original movie from whence it came. If "singer" credits must be included, add them to the original movie page, not to this page, please. Finally, if we must add references and sources, we should discuss what is appropriate and add them right away. Any comments? Azasakayi 16:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Volume Number Debate

Tell me, why would Volume 2 come out before Volume 1. Volume 1 always come out first, you know. Can't you see that 'Heigh-Ho' comes out in 1986, not 1987? -- Guest Editor

I've seen the end credits, and the copyright date is MCMLXXXVII, not MCMLXXXVI. --Ryanasaurus0077 14:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I think yours is a later version? Could be a typo. Imax80 17:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Either it IS a typo or it really DID come out in 1987. Does your print say 1987? --Ryanasaurus0077 18:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
      • I wish I had it. I highly doubt that Volume 2 was first, why would Disney (an extremely intellegent animation powerhouse in my opinion) put out a Volume 2 before a Volume 1? I have the 1991 reprinting of Volume 2. Imaxination 80
        • If you're reading this, Ryanasaurus0077, Volume 1 of Disney Sing Along Songs was released in December of 1986 and would originally have the copyright date "MCMLXXXVI" (your version must be a later printing). End of story. Gabrielkat 02:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
          • The earliest printing I know of had no FBI warnings at all! --Ryanasaurus0077 17:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
            • Then how does the video begin? First it's all black, then the WDHV logo starts out of nowhere? Imax80 15:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

- Creepy. That probably jumped out at people who were expecting FBI warnings. Imax80 00:11, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

If Volume 3's stock number was #662 and released in 1987, then why does Vol. 4 have #581 when released in 1988? It's like the 1988 Cinderella print having a #410 on it. Imax80 15:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Where can I find the 1986 version of Volume 1? Imax80 23:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

First of all, there have been ongoing chats of Volume 2 coming first and not Volume 1. Also, why are the release dates on Vol. 3 and Vol. 4 the other way around, along with Vol. 8, which should be 1992.

Disney would not release a one volume before the other, they went in order, the copyright dates on the cassettes are possibly typos.

I think everything should be put in order. Imax80 23:09, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about 3 and 4, but in the case of 11 and 12, I find it very natural to think that the reason relates to the Twelve days of Christmas that they want to give a volume number easy to remember. Georgia guy 00:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Look, my theory is this. In 1986, Disney was mastering Vol. 1 to tape, and assumed they would hit in spring 1987 and put the 1987 copyright date on all prints, but when Vol. 2 was being mastered to tape, they then said it would be a Christmas 1986 hit, so 1986 was put on all prints, and they were released in December '86 that way.

About Volumes 3 and 4, possibly the same issue I stated above, unexpected release dates leading to typos. Imax80 01:00, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see why Zip A Dee Doo Dah is first, it's because probably Heigh Ho has more texured bouncing ball than in Zip A Dee Doo Dah (which had white bouncing ball) -- Blocked User

Does the Volume 1 DVD say "1986"? Just wondering? Imax80 01:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why Volume Numbers Are Irrelevant

Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah was likely planned as the most urgent release to coincide with the last North-American theatrical release of "Song Of The South", in 1986. The Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah Sing Along Songs was based on the song, Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah, which was the most popular song EVER to come out of a Disney movie. This makes it important and primary. It was not labelled "Volume 2", because it just was that it was. Ditto for Heigh-Ho. It was only after they'd made a few volumes that they really started attaching volume numbers. Though after the complaints about the portrayal of African Americans in "Song of the South" rehashed in 1986, it would have been politically correct to label Heigh-Ho as Volume 1, just as "Snow White" predates "Song Of The South", then repair the order from there on. Note also that the DVD releases have no volume numbers.

The live-action SAS were originally released as "Mickey's Fun Songs" then were rolled into the SAS in later re-releases (though produced in the late '80's). They do not have volume numbers but were grouped together promotionally. Flik's Musical Adventure was made coincidental with Disney-Pixar's A Bug's Life, in the style of the old Mickey's Fun Songs. Let's Go To Disneyland Paris was released only in Europe, also done in the same style.

An SAS may only qualify as "Volume No." if they are based on a primary Disney musical release. Notice there is no "Milo's Atlantian SAS", yet "Sing-A-Song With Winnie the Pooh (And Piglet Too)" doesn't rate a volume number at all. What about "Little Patch Of Heaven" and "On My Way", which may actually qualify as Volumes 17 and 18 (if Pooh doesn't get there first). Volumes one through sixteen are "written in stone" and will only be released to DVD with those designations. Let's watch and see where they go. I notice that the "Very Merry Christmas SAS" was re-released to DVD in 2002 with additional content and without a volume number.

Let's try to appreciate the content, and be less concerned with the volume numbers. I like this new look with Volume Trivia and "re-release" dates, and will continue to contribute. Thanks. -- Azasakayi 00:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

  • My new copy of Heigh-Ho is dated MCMLXXXVII (1987) on the box, but the tape is mislabeled MCMLXXXI (1981). The Disney Home Video sticker matches at the corner, so they are an original set. It turns out even Disney can make mistakes. Azasakayi 02:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Friend Like Me - Missing 2nd Edition

Can anyone confirm the existence of a second edition of "Friend Like Me"? I've seen the package on a checklist which was included with my VHS copy of "Flik's Musical Adventure". The first edition is noted as released March 3, 1993, and Amazon lists a second release date of June 24, 1994 (the same date as "Be Our Guest" and "Bare Necessities" 2nd editions). This issue should have the newer package design (as seen on the Spanish edition), but I've been unable to find it in the marketplace (Amazon, ebay, etc.) Does anyone have this newer package, or was it somehow skipped?--Azasakayi 00:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm guessing that this was the last volume released in the 2nd series (#11 of 12, with #12 being the earlier released The Twelve Days Of Christmas). Then the new series, beginning with Circle of Life had new packaging, no new volume numbers, new theme orchestration (first appearing on Friend Like Me). Since it was the last of the old, or first of the new, it really belongs to both series, and given the controversy over Robin Williams' contract dispute with Disney, it just never made it out there into the market, though promoted and designed. It will probably hit DVD around the next Aladdin re-release. Azasakayi 02:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] We'll need pictures in this Article

I think we'll need some pictures for the article, can you somebody do that for me?

  • I have a collection of VHS/DVD cover images - can we include them all or just a few as samples? Also, on the question of citing sources/references -- can we use one over-arching reference such as "VHS/DVD credits" for songs and "Amazon.com" for release dates?Azasakayi 17:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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